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See ya, and thanks for the convo, I like civilized conversation.

Erm. And folks, if you want good service, go somewhere and pay for it. If you're gonna be cheap, guess what? You get what you pay for.

Quote: Wow, I must have had too much wine tonight and it's early! I don't understand what you mean here--can you translate? Surely! My earlier post about how physically disciplining a child lead in my case to active revulsion and hate was in response to folks talking about how physical...

Quote: That just isn't my experience. I know there are cultures where that is true, but in my experience that just isn't true here. Maybe it's because most of the people I know are well-educated and middle or upper class. Also, not to open another can of worms, but there's a world of...

Quote: Not in my regional VoTech HS; enrollment is booming. Phyllis Yeayyyy! THat's wonderful. It's very much not so out here in CA, or indeed wherever I look for data. Heartening; thank you, Phyllis. Quote: "I'm not saying people should beat their kids black and blue, but a good...

Pardon me while I post some HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL views: 1) People who beat children are childbeaters. Dad beat me. I hated him, glad when he was ill, danced when he died. "Spare the rod" my hate-full hide. Reap what you sow. 2) Some kids & people are slow. They're not that bright...