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Quote: You just got to keep hatching & culling, Kim.

Quote: Depends. They won't as long as you continue to select to the standard. Ducktang wrote: My mentor Don Shrider said it best, "Remember, culling and selection are much more important than exactly how the birds are mated." I think this is an important quote to think about. Mitch

Well said, Chris. My purposes are similar to yours; I want a bird that I can have eggs & meat from. I want a bird that I can look at and like what I see. I want a bird that doesn't attack me whenever I go in the pen. I've found my bird: the Buckeye. I also will breed my birds to their standard...

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pips&peeps : Quote: Yes, that is why the breeder got rid of them. ETA: But there is a small chance of getting a nice quality bird since the genetics are there. I agree.

Quote: I agree.