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Yeah.. Sadly, I see your point. All that is is a bunch of high minded people vying for top position and a bunch of pride and greed. That is not the way its supposed to be but unfortunately there seem to be rotten apples in every basket nowadays...Then the media makes everyone look like idiots...

Well howdy there, neighbor ;) I'm right next state lol, so I think we might have more similarities than differences here.... Somehow, I must have made it seem that I was against all forms of farming practices including modern chemicals and what not... I'm not. We have conventional and organic...

I agree that's its all helpful i n producing our food. And I agree I shouldn't use the word "poison" so I will knock that off... But... Modern ag? If by that you mean tractors and sprinklers instead of setting tubes, then sure. But modern doesn't have to include round up and huge amounts of...

Ah! Ok, gotcha, truck farmer! Lol I'm sorry, I was envisioning someone growing organic trucks hahaha, thought maybe it was a typo or something; learn something new every day! ;) Oh and the regs are confusing to ME sometimes, so my bad, maybe confusing wasn't the right word to use...

Actually, you have been misinformed on antibiotic use in organic practice. It's allowed, but there's a limit on how much can be used. I'm sorry your brother found the regulations confusing, and I'm.glad he hasn't been disillusioned out of his practices because of it... But hey, speaking of...

You have a right to your opinion, as I do mine ;) But if you're stating facts, I would have to counter with my opinion of which "scam" actually started first lol :P Are you certified? Do you actually KNOW all the regulations, or are you just quoting other "opinions" from elsewhere? Crooked...

Well... :hide If you want my personal opinion lol, I think wormers and overuse of antibiotics has been a scam a lot longer than organic food. In fact, organic food has been on this planet for wayyyyyyy longer than the poisons that we have created and some of us evidently don't mind eating...

If the milk is "certified" organic, the cows AND the feed have to be "certified" organic as well.

I'm in the same boat as @lazy gardener, @Blooie, and @Beekissed, who have all done an excellent job of explaining the same reasons I don't use them. :D Thanks for saving me all that typing, ladies ;) Won't affect us. Especially with the chickens. The cattle don't get any antibiotics...