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Thank you for the compliment. Mine are still considered utility BRs, but they are GOOD utility BRs, LOL. The further from hatchery stock you get, seems the better the quality, as long as you breed the best you have and watch for bad traits to pop up. I'm very worried about buying any hatchery...

I have two from Ideal. I'm not impressed with the quality, really. One has the worst ghost-like barring and one is very small for a standard (4.5-5 lb) with too-light barring for a hen. Honestly, I think McMurray has had better BRs in the past, not sure about now. helmstead got hers from MM and...