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Thank you for the suggestion. I do appreciate the advice and the suggestions. This is wht we have bred out of the new birds. The last photo I posted was of the newest males we hatched. This is what I consider to be the best yet from my stock. You did get me looking at all my males and i have...

Is that close enough to the base for ya.

Here is my roos back as you can see there is no white as mentioned earlier. Just bad camera glare

I'll post a better picture tomorrow out in the light that will give you a better view without the flash.

That's the light shining thru the coop...not one ounce of white on those birds.

We have about a 7 at the begining and end with a 5. We have had 8s but its rare. Blind hog finds a acorn every now and then. But i guess average is between 5 and 6

The last photo is big Rick. He is my result of 3 years of careful breeding. When I started his great, great, great grand chicken had some white in his tail feathers, worked it all out. Now the first photo is big ricks grand chicks. They are all growing up nicely.

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Anyone who raises them will tell you there's are the best!!! Lol. I have been raising this breed for several years. I have hens and Roos from both Bev Davis line and the wade line. Both have their goods and bads. One has darker eggs, one has better feathered legs, all depends on what you are...