Calcium Gluconate

How much calcium glutenate is the correct dosage for a peahen? I have the injectable on hand.

@KsKingBee , this is NOT the best way to start your morning
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Hopefully it won't take too long to read through this, but I've been reading this thread (and re-reading it) the past month or two... the discussion between @DylansMom & @casportpony is really helpful on the subject of calcium gluconate and egg binding treatment as a whole. https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/980241/another-egg-bound-hen
 
Here are a couple quotes from that thread... (https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/980241/another-egg-bound-hen)

When did she have the 5ml? and was it the 23%?

-Kathy

Yes 23% and she had 5ml at 8am.

From post #48 --
Quote: The tail pumping is a good sign, I think. I worry when they don't pump.
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The amount of calcium should be fine, but it is more than my vet told me to use, so that's why I said something.

-Kathy

From post #49
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BTW @KsKingBee , I'm assuming what you have is a bottle of Calcium Gluconate (I was staring at one in the feed store day before yesterday, and trying to decide whether to go ahead and buy it to have on hand...), but I would not guarantee I could type that name correctly if I were upset over an egg-bound hen... Looks like the 23% is what has been discussed. (I would also be hard-pressed to wade through a thread that long, so imported these quotes in the interest of time. Hopefully the ladies will show up soon!)

Hope this helps
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Here are a couple quotes from that thread... (https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/980241/another-egg-bound-hen)



From post #35 --

From post #40 --

From post #48 --

From post #49

BTW @KsKingBee , I'm assuming what you have is a bottle of Calcium Gluconate (I was staring at one in the feed store day before yesterday, and trying to decide whether to go ahead and buy it to have on hand...), but I would not guarantee I could type that name correctly if I were upset over an egg-bound hen... Looks like the 23% is what has been discussed. (I would also be hard-pressed to wade through a thread that long, so imported these quotes in the interest of time. Hopefully the ladies will show up soon!)

Hope this helps
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Yes! Very helpful, I remember this thread but it didn't come up in my search. The hen seems to be ok, but I expect to find an egg any day now, her first this year. If she starts looking like she is in distress I will administer the CG. I just don't think that a calcium deficiency is the problem as they have been getting about one whole raw egg per day for each hen, shell and all in the mash.
 
The amount of 23% CG I use now is ~0.45 ml per 1 kg (= 100 mg/kg), and I always give it with fluids. In seriously egg bound hens I give 200 ml subcutaneous fluids and subcutaneous calcium twice a day. If not in distress, I give 60-90 ml fluids orally and repeat in 60-90 minutes, but only if crop has mostly cleared.

Does that help?

-Kathy
 
So @KsKingBee , the first thing you will need to do is to check your bottle of calcium gluconate and see whether you have the 23% or the 10%, since it is sold in two different strengths. (I'm guessing you probably have the 23%, but since it is sold both ways, you have to look.)

The other thing that was in the old discussion (that I didn't have time to copy over) was the importance of fluids. I think Kathy mentioned her vet had said the fluids were extremely important, which is why you see all the emphasis in the treatments above on getting sufficient fluid into the hen, either through the crop or subcutaneously. Apparently dehydration in the hen can really be a significant cause of egg binding. (Did I get that right @casportpony ?)

Also, I think the only person who can change or edit the title to a thread is the person who started it... sorry!
 
So @KsKingBee
,  the first thing you will need to do is to check your bottle of calcium gluconate and see whether you have the 23% or the 10%, since it is sold in two different strengths.  (I'm guessing you probably have the 23%, but since it is sold both ways, you have to look.) 

The other thing that was in the old discussion (that I didn't have time to copy over) was the importance of fluids.  I think Kathy mentioned her vet had said the fluids were extremely important, which is why you see all the emphasis in the treatments above on getting sufficient fluid into the hen, either through the crop or subcutaneously.  Apparently dehydration in the hen can really be a significant cause of egg binding.  (Did I get that right @casportpony
?)

Also, I think the only person who can change or edit the title to a thread is the person who started it... sorry!


Perfect! Calcium can strain the kidneys, so that's another reason I give fluids, but to quote my vet "dehydration is one of the main causes of egg binding".

-Kathy
 
So @KsKingBee , the first thing you will need to do is to check your bottle of calcium gluconate and see whether you have the 23% or the 10%, since it is sold in two different strengths. (I'm guessing you probably have the 23%, but since it is sold both ways, you have to look.)

The other thing that was in the old discussion (that I didn't have time to copy over) was the importance of fluids. I think Kathy mentioned her vet had said the fluids were extremely important, which is why you see all the emphasis in the treatments above on getting sufficient fluid into the hen, either through the crop or subcutaneously. Apparently dehydration in the hen can really be a significant cause of egg binding. (Did I get that right @casportpony ?)

Also, I think the only person who can change or edit the title to a thread is the person who started it... sorry!

I'd be happy to change the title of that thread, if someone can tell me how. When I go back to it I do not see an edit button.

Just an update, Bertolli the egg bound hen in that thread started his season off great... 5 perfect eggs, 4 that are developing in the bator now and one perch bomb. Eggs 6 and 7 have each been a day late and soft shelled. I think I will try some calcium and fluids this evening to see if it makes a difference in tomorrows egg.
 

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