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Headofriver said:
What sex-link (or continued breeding towards autosexing) options are available with the following breeds:

BBS marans
BBS Australorp
Isabella Leghorn
Cream legbar
Opal Legbar
Silver Bielefelder
Isabel Ameraucanas
Speckled sussex
Red orpington
55 Flowery
Welsummer
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The BBS males over a pure barred female will make sexlinks, though it might be hard to tell for the blue or splash
 
The Moonshiner said:
Cackle sells red sex links that are RIR over Delaware.
Easy to spot because they're one of the few where hens have black instead of white tails.
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Curious if I bred Dominiques to Welsummers (instead of using the barred rock ) would I still get a breed that looks similar to a Welbar but with a rose comb ?
 
Not IMO or at least not for a few generations.
Dominique rooster over Welsummer hens will give you barred chicks of both sexes.
Welsummer rooster over Dominique hens will give you sex links. Barred cockerels and non barred pullets.
They will all have rose combs but not the Welsummer pattern. Because of the Dominique they'll be black. The males will show some leakage. Females may but usually don't.
they also won't be a "breed" but a mix. If you continue on with the offspring you can breed to get the pure duckwing pattern with barred females and DF barred males. Also focusing on removing the single comb genes..
Then you'll have rose comb Welbar looking birds.
 
The Moonshiner said:
Not IMO or at least not for a few generations.
Dominique rooster over Welsummer hens will give you barred chicks of both sexes.
Welsummer rooster over Dominique hens will give you sex links. Barred cockerels and non barred pullets.
They will all have rose combs but not the Welsummer pattern. Because of the Dominique they'll be black. The males will show some leakage. Females may but usually don't.
they also won't be a "breed" but a mix. If you continue on with the offspring you can breed to get the pure duckwing pattern with barred females and DF barred males. Also focusing on removing the single comb genes..
Then you'll have rose comb Welbar looking birds.
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This is correct, it will take several generations across years of selective breeding to accomplish this. I know because I created a line of pure-breeding, autosexing Welbars several years ago. It took me about 2 years to get my first double barred cockerel chicks.
The black sexlinks you get in the first generation will still be nice birds, but far from autosexing.
If anyone wants to learn more about Welbars, check out my webpage: http://welbars.com/doku.php?id=welbars:start
I have pictures of both gold and silver Welbars and links to other pages with the "recipe" to make your own. My current Welbar flocks are laying 30 to 40 eggs a day now and most are as dark as my Lavender Marans and some as dark as the best eggs from my Black Coppers. I sell a lot of their chicks to local people. Guaranteed sexable chicks are a big deal in suburban areas, as one might expect.
 
The Moonshiner said:
Not IMO or at least not for a few generations.
Dominique rooster over Welsummer hens will give you barred chicks of both sexes.
Welsummer rooster over Dominique hens will give you sex links. Barred cockerels and non barred pullets.
They will all have rose combs but not the Welsummer pattern. Because of the Dominique they'll be black. The males will show some leakage. Females may but usually don't.
they also won't be a "breed" but a mix. If you continue on with the offspring you can breed to get the pure duckwing pattern with barred females and DF barred males. Also focusing on removing the single comb genes..
Then you'll have rose comb Welbar looking birds.
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Thanks for your help! I had to order Welsummers chicks since I can't find any adults locally. Shipped fertile eggs are unreliable so I skipped this route. I already have a barred rock but ordered another one just in case. I already have 5 Doms under a year old too so I didn't have to buy any of these. Once my welsummer cockerels are mature I'll begin my quest to make look a like Welbars with a rose combs using Doms thanks to you! I think I'll try to make some pure Welbars too while I'm at it.I'd like to compare them side by side after the project is finished.
 
dheltzel said:
This is correct, it will take several generations across years of selective breeding to accomplish this. I know because I created a line of pure-breeding, autosexing Welbars several years ago. It took me about 2 years to get my first double barred cockerel chicks.
The black sexlinks you get in the first generation will still be nice birds, but far from autosexing.
If anyone wants to learn more about Welbars, check out my webpage: http://welbars.com/doku.php?id=welbars:start
I have pictures of both gold and silver Welbars and links to other pages with the "recipe" to make your own. My current Welbar flocks are laying 30 to 40 eggs a day now and most are as dark as my Lavender Marans and some as dark as the best eggs from my Black Coppers. I sell a lot of their chicks to local people. Guaranteed sexable chicks are a big deal in suburban areas, as one might expect.
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I'd like to buy some welbar hatching eggs if shipping is possible.
 
Hi, what is the smallest Bantam breed that is known to carry the silver gene? I have bantam white Sussex and have breed them back to bantam silky male and the sex link works great.
I am looking to know if there is a smaller bantam that I can get that carries the silver gene?
I am looking to breed smaller ones to be used for future mothers for partridge. Thanks 👍
 

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