What could i cross with these breeds to get a better meat bird?

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I know i wont get much for meat production with these breeds, i just want something thats worth butchering.
I have a project going (kind of going...... the hens stopped laying) for a meat bird that would actually be profitable (Marans X dark cornish X BLRW x red broiler from ideal) , so i know it takes a certain level of skill, and time...... lots of time.

There is a thread in the meat bird section for WLR Cornish breeding projects. There you will find a few of us and we talk and have many pic's of our programs and their progress, with crossing for meat sustainability. I urge you to take a glance some of us have made some really good progress.

Here is the link. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=316007

AL
 
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I know i wont get much for meat production with these breeds, i just want something thats worth butchering.
I have a project going (kind of going...... the hens stopped laying) for a meat bird that would actually be profitable (Marans X dark cornish X BLRW x red broiler from ideal) , so i know it takes a certain level of skill, and time...... lots of time.

There is a thread in the meat bird section for WLR Cornish breeding projects. There you will find a few of us and we talk and have many pic's of our programs and their progress, with crossing for meat sustainability. I urge you to take a glance some of us have made some really good progress.

Here is the link. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=316007

AL

I've been watching that thread for a while (i think that might be where i got the idea to use marans, i cant remember).
ETA: The idea to use marans came from an old thread about someone makeing their own meat birds.
 
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The Marans idea may possibly have come from me. I've mentioned a lot of French Marans being good starters to a dual purpose flock, as they are a large, meaty breed with good growth rat. Cuckoo Marans however do not fit in that category, as I'm talking about well bred French Marans, not hatchery based Cuckoos.
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Wyandottes won't help much, though. Truly dual purpose, good quality ones get big, yes, but they are very slow growers.
 
Here are some cross that have been used in the U.K. before the time of a Cornish Cross.

*Light Sussex x White Wyandotte

An excellent table chicken but care must be taken in selecting the breeders so the breast bone of the offspring is not too high. Care should also be taken in selecting the White Wyandotte hens, they must not have any black in the legs in order to get good white fleshed table bird. These are fast growing birds that are short legged, carrying lots of meat. Feathers are white with the odd black fleck. Almost all of these birds will be white fleshed.

*Indian Game X Rhode Island Red

This produces a yellow skinned bird which can be greatly enhanced in colour by feeding maize and allowing access to fresh green grass. The Rhode Island Red is a fast growing breed which dominates the slower growing Indian Game. Indian Game cocks should be at least a year old so that fertility is high. Since Rhode Island Reds are prolific layers, there is never any shortage of hatching eggs.

* Indian Game X Sussex on Light Sussex

This is a second cross that was once very popular to produce a very meaty white fleshed table bird. The first cross results in slow growth but the second results in very fast growth.

* Light Sussex X Rhode Island Red (Sussex Star)

Sussex Star has been bred to be a dual purpose bird from the Light Sussex and Rhode Island Red. A utility bird that manages to look good with a lovely calm nature. She is very attractive white bird with black neck feathers and tail feathers. She will lay about 260+ eggs in her first year which can be either white or brown.

Chris
 
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Excuse the interuption, please. When I see (One breed) X (Another breed) does that mean the rooster is first and the hen is second in the equation?
 
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Correct.

A Light Sussex x White Wyandotte cross would be a Light Sussex male over a White Wyandotte Female.

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Indian Game X Rhode Island Red cross would be a Indian Game male over a Rhode Island Red Female.


Now in the case of a Indian Game X Sussex on Light Sussex cross. This is a double cross or a, "second cross" and will take two (2) years to fully produce this hybrid.

In the first year a Indian Game male is crossed with a Light Sussex hen, the offspring are called F1's and the best F1 male is saved for future breeding.
In the second year the F1 male that was saved from the first year breeding is now bred back to a Light Sussex hen and completing the hybrid.

Chris
 
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Chris09 said:
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Correct.

A Light Sussex x White Wyandotte cross would be a Light Sussex male over a White Wyandotte Female.

or

Indian Game X Rhode Island Red cross would be a Indian Game male over a Rhode Island Red Female.


Now in the case of a Indian Game X Sussex on Light Sussex cross. This is a double cross or a, "second cross" and will take two (2) years to fully produce this hybrid.

In the first year a Indian Game male is crossed with a Light Sussex hen, the offspring are called F1's and the best F1 male is saved for future breeding.
In the second year the F1 male that was saved from the first year breeding is now bred back to a Light Sussex hen and completing the hybrid.

Chris
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