BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

Another thing to remember is for a few generations, you will have more than enough genetic variety to account for these kinds of differences in size and coloring. If you have a very specific picture in your mind of what you want to breed, then each year you'll keep only the ones closest to that ideal until your hatches are more uniform-looking. This is especially true when crossing two different phenotypes, either breeds or varieties or very different lines.

As an example, I am crossing hatchery stock gold-laced Wyandottes with black phase blue-laced red Wyandottes from a breeder near me, so with both a variety cross and a big-difference line cross, I know I'll have quite the variety of results for at least three generations, probably five, and this is with a very clear picture of my goal.
Very good point. And I'm glad I have a variety to choose from. It's just interesting that my assumption was that the NHs would be bigger and so far, they're not. (Their growth curve may evolve differently, though).

My only recommendation is to handle them a lot so their used to you, and throughout the day put your hand in the brooder, moving it slowly to touch various chicks. I only had one hatch of birds there were super flighty and no matter what I did they would freak out. The rest of my hatches all gave me chicks that would eventually run TO my hand and sometimes jump on to be lifted out and petted. The breed matters a lot though. Some birds are just more nervous.
I think it was the New Hampshires who were skittish and setting most of them off - that sort of panic reaction then set off even the NNs that usually run up to me like puppies.

But now, after the round up and having held and weighed each one (each got a nose-to-beak "Hello, I won't hurt you" greeting), when I walk in to the room, instead of being startled, they all just ignore me or look up as if to say "Oh, it's just you. You're boring."
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I put my hand in the brooder - I am now clearly forgiven:




- Ant Farm
 
One more point to add, don't make fast sudden moves. chickens key in on your demeanor and panic. Try the calm approach before ripping their heads off. Working with them when they are sleeping or roosting is a great suggestion.
 
Very good point. And I'm glad I have a variety to choose from. It's just interesting that my assumption was that the NHs would be bigger and so far, they're not. (Their growth curve may evolve differently, though).

I think it was the New Hampshires who were skittish and setting most of them off - that sort of panic reaction then set off even the NNs that usually run up to me like puppies.

But now, after the round up and having held and weighed each one (each got a nose-to-beak "Hello, I won't hurt you" greeting), when I walk in to the room, instead of being startled, they all just ignore me or look up as if to say "Oh, it's just you. You're boring."
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I put my hand in the brooder - I am now clearly forgiven:




- Ant Farm

First off....I LOVE that little chick. I don't know why, but I just find NN chicks to be exceptionally cute.

Secondly, I've consistently found that my NNs grow faster than other breeds. Perhaps because they have fewer feathers and can devote more calories to growing bigger rather than fluffier? I think that's one of the things that make them good meat birds.
 
@Ant Farm...how many chicks do you have in total. Forgive me if I missed it in a previous post.

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Started with 25 (15 NN, 10 NH), lost 2 NN early on (1 with a naked neck that had a strange long blood clotted umbilical cord, and 1 "Naked Neck" that was fully feathered that didn't grow) so now I have 23. I'm watching the blind/neurologically iffy NH, but she seems to keep up, sticks up for herself effectively, and weight is in line with the rest...

First off....I LOVE that little chick. I don't know why, but I just find NN chicks to be exceptionally cute.

Secondly, I've consistently found that my NNs grow faster than other breeds. Perhaps because they have fewer feathers and can devote more calories to growing bigger rather than fluffier? I think that's one of the things that make them good meat birds.

I am TOTALLY loving these NN chicks. I think they are super cute, and I love their behavior - friendly and confident. They are now enjoying leaning against my hand and taking turns sitting in my palm. Very, very sweet. One (tiny bowtie, not Nn phenotype) has fewer feathers than the others, and as he grows , his little naked butt and belly bits are really visible - precious! It's not fair to the NHs - they are being compared to the NNs...
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Good meat birds, good layers, great personalities, great in my hot climate... Hard to see a down side to these sweeties.

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I'm preparing to do a couple of culls before we head into winter. We've sold off all of our goats (the last pair are being picked up tomorrow) and I'm sorting out birds to butcher or sell over the next couple of months.

This cockerel is one of my keepers. He's Langshan x Barred Rock and is showing the Langshan tendency to not put much effort into growing his tail. He has a nice broad, flat back. Right now he's still getting beat up by the pullets, even though most are 1/2 his size or even smaller.



This is a Langshan x Speckled Sussex pullet that I'm very happy with. She is a big, big bird in every direction. She's about 7 months old now and is bigger than all of last years hens.




This pullet is on the butcher list. She's essentially a softball with legs. There's 1 or 2 other pullets running around that are short on length (not as badly as this one) that will be butchered as well.


And some of the moochers wanting to know where the kitchen scraps are.
 
Seems I have read where turkens can come both nekkid and feathered. Is there any difference other than featheration? I've always liked the description of the turkens but never could stand to look at them. Now I've learned some can be fully feathered
 
@bramblefir The cockerel is a fine looking bird as the pullet. It's funny...you're selling off goats and we're gearing up for the biggest kidding season in memory. Gotta' use up some old straws stored at a neighbors. He's selling out of dairy stock and going into beef cattle. Claims he will not need the tank??? It's for sale at a fairly reasonable price but I can't really justify owning one since all our semen will be used up this season. It's still nagging at me and the family has no opinion...NOW..THAT'S A SURPRISE.
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