3 vets no relief conflicting diagnosis fubar

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May 31, 2019
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This started months ago, I posted about it here. One day I came home and his voice was weird and he acted like something stuck in his throat.
I took him to a vet who took xrays and said she didn't see anything but if I wanted to be sure for another $100 she'd send them to someone who'd know. I didnt have any more money so left there with no answers or relief for Boyd, and no money to take him somewhere else.

When I could I took him to a board certified avian vet, she gets his xrays and says there's a mass in his upper chest and wants to first do exploratory surgery, but I don't see the point if it's a mass it's cancer/tumor and I'd euthanize him. Then she wants to do needle aspiration to see what it is. I'm curious too but this vet is incredibly expensive and I don't see that it helps Boyd any. I wanted to think about it. I asked to see the records from other vet and when I see them it's says "food bolus or other material in esophagus".
What the hell I'm thinking, he hadn't eaten anything and told them I saw him eating memory foam floor mat and worried it was stuck in his crop/ esophagus and they didn't say a word. neither did the new vet.

I didn't like that i had come to her saying the other place didnt see anything but i think something is in his esophagus , and say nothing even if it had been she didn't agree.

I asked why but didn't get an answer. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. I decided to not go back. I still hadn't seen the xrays because they sent me a dead link.

I took him to a third vet that I've had some experience with.
This one says he stumped. He gave me antibiotics for respiratory infection and panacur for gapeworm. I treated Boyd for gapeworm at the start of this,,tho I could have done it wrong. He has no symptoms of a respiratory infection.

The vet is odd, not that I'm so great but i say Boyd has petechia on his throat behind his wattles and it got really dark red and a small weird pouch looking thing poked out. Normal he says . really?
He saya he can't hear Boyd breathing abnormally. But he hasn't listened to his breathing, he's been talking to me. I say his feathers are really greasy vet says That isn't grease. Okay.... I don't know the technical term but he's not grooming himself .

the vet looked at xrays and saw nothing abnormal. He doesn't see any mass but the crop. He said looked at normal chicken xrays to compare and that's basically how he read them.

They sent me the xrays. I looked at information on how to read them, watching out for structure on top of structure etc. and used comparisons.

I think there Is something weird as hell looking , right by where Boyd has the broken blood vessels and the pouch came out.

I see the mass the 2nd doctor saw, and at first thought it was crop too but now not sure.

Does anyone have any input on all this ? If someone with knowledge can tell me if this thing I see in his throat is regular anatomy or what, .and same with mass in chest that would be so very very great. He's doing really bad, his beak is ragged the area under his chin is swollen his left leg trembles god I just Hate this. I told the latest vet the medications didn't improve his problem and he won't return my call. I don't know what to do. I feel so bad for Boyd i can't stand myself.
Thanks for reading, i was hurrying and apologize for any errors.
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Well, poor you and Boyd. Getting a good poultry vet is very hard to do.
Afraid I'm not going to be much help except to say I do think I see a constriction on the 1st X-ray. That would mesh will the alteration in voice.
Whereabouts are you located? Maybe someone here lives nearby and can recommend a vet....
 
Sorry about your rooster. We are not vets here, but honestly, many times we cannot understand what was wrong until a necropsy is done after death. If you eventually lose him, I would send his body to your state vet lab or a neighboring state if they are better at performing one, for a necropsy and histology. Frequently they may find evidence of aspergillosis or another organism that has caused yellow plaques to form inside the airway or esophagus. Tumors can be common from a couple of viruses in chickens.

You have spent a lot of money already without getting a diagnosis, and not that many vets know a lot about chickens. I hope that your rooster gets better, but I would check around on where and how to send in a body for a necropsy to be prepared for when the time comes. They can be fairly inexpensive in some states, while others are pricey. Some require you to go through a local vet, or at least they will only send a report to a vet. Here is a list of state labs and vets to contact:
https://www.metzerfarms.com/PoultryLabs.cfm
 
Hello, so sorry to take so long to answer! I'm really sick and slept way too long and dont have internet at home.
I did try olive oil a million times, I've tried oxygen which couldn't tell if it helped, I've tried massage, vibration , tapping, kombucha, Pepsi, prayer, visualization, even new age exorcism,,, what a trip that was! It's so bizarre no one would believe it. But whatever it didn't work.
Necropsy I want to do, except I dislike sending his body off to be cut up. I'll do my best to get over it. Also I'll get so verrry mad if he died because somethings in there and 3 vets missed it.
I'm in Portland Oregon. I just started wondering about country vets. They may know a thing or two.
Yes if anyone who knows chicken xrays would look it would be fantastic.
Thanks for reading ,advice and comments.
 
Is Boyd eating and drinking and getting around okay? Does he live inside a coop with other chickens? Has mold ever been a problem?
In the last few days his left leg is trembling and both legs definitely weak.
He eats and drinks but not enough. I feed him warm water with brewers yeast on bread, egg drop soup made with turkey stock and plain hamburger on top of what he eats. But hes starting to waste away.
He has unusual living situation, which I've tried to be very careful about I know their respiratory systems are very delicate. I cant have a rooster in Portland so he lives inside with two banty girlfriends.
It's an uncarpeted large room facing the sun most of the day with large windows that open and I open them every day and night too if it isnt freezing. It does get pretty dusty from their sand box I put an out facing fan in the window to help . No mold problem , tho I have found moldy things hiding here and there.
I was taking them to my dads in the country several days a week but he got so sick and his legs weak I havent taken him in two weeks but let him out here. His crow is mostly quiet , sadly.
 
Just because it's very hard for me to give up and maybe it's too much wading thru my post, the questions I have are
Is the arrow pointing at his crop, or is it a mass like one Dr. said?
is the thing I circled normal anatomy?

i used normal and reverse color xrays.
thanks
 

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