All of a Sudden, Then Gradually : Advice and Assistance needed, please

[tiktilaok]

Hello everyone! I hope this post finds you well..

I am in need of your advices and assistance. I am left clueless with what happened..

I had 4 guinea fowls that were almost 4 months old. Everything was fine from the day they hatched up until this thing happened.

They were the usual boisterous and voracious guineas. They were caged in a 6ft x 8ft run with rice hull as their bedding. I still cant let them out since the perimeter fence is still undergoing repairs at that time.

They were being fed with feeds, grains, vegetables, and different kinds of edible leaves. Body conformation is good to excellent.

Then, ALL OF A SUDDEN, one of the 4 guinea fowls started showing signs of lethargy, poor appetite, and it started isolating itself from the rest. I checked on the said gfowl and i didnt find anything: no oculonasal discharge, vent was clean, no diarrhea, no abnormal breathing sounds.

I transferred the sick one to a separate cage. It was eating and drinking but the amounts really didnt suffice. I didnt want to try handfeeding/forcefeeding again. Did that before but with no success. I also installed a 50w bulb on 1 corner of its cage coz it seems a bit cold. I gave him antibiotic and vitamin shots for the next few days. But no improvement was observed.

GRADUALLY, its condition just continued to deteriorate, until finally (and unfortunately) it succumbed to death.

The same thing happened to the other 3 gfowls. One by one, they suffered the same fate. Now, i lost all 4 gfowls.

I really dont know what happened, or whatever malady afflicted them.

I just dont want this to happen again to the other gfowls.

I want to know what couldve happened to them..

Thank you in advance..

 

[R2elk]

Lethargy and blood in the stools can indicate coccidiosis which can be treated with Corid.

Excessive "treats" can cause all kinds of damage. Kidney damage can be caused by excessive calcium in the diet. for non laying juveniles whether male or female. Excessive fat in the diet can also cause various organ failures.

Some tree leaves can contain harmful toxins.

 

[tiktilaok]

Lethargy and blood in the stools can indicate coccidiosis which can be treated with Corid.

Excessive "treats" can cause all kinds of damage. Kidney damage can be caused by excessive calcium in the diet. for non laying juveniles whether male or female. Excessive fat in the diet can also cause various organ failures.

Some tree leaves can contain harmful toxins.

There was no blood in their droppings.

There was no blood in their droppings. I also do not usually give treats. Just mostly Moringa, Tricanthera and mulberry leaves.

They were really apparently healthy before that happened. They have also been dewormed twice.

 

[R2elk]

There was no blood in their droppings. I also do not usually give treats. Just mostly Moringa, Tricanthera and mulberry leaves.

They were really apparently healthy before that happened. They have also been dewormed twice.

Coccidiosis is not always accompanied by blood in the stool. The other symptoms and the timing of the deaths lean towards coccidiosis.

I personally would not feed any of those leaves to my guineas.

The definition of "treats" is anything other than their proper quality feed such as an all flock feed for 4 month old keets.

 

[Mixed flock enthusiast]

Hello everyone! I hope this post finds you well..

I am in need of your advices and assistance. I am left clueless with what happened..

I had 4 guinea fowls that were almost 4 months old. Everything was fine from the day they hatched up until this thing happened.

They were the usual boisterous and voracious guineas. They were caged in a 6ft x 8ft run with rice hull as their bedding. I still cant let them out since the perimeter fence is still undergoing repairs at that time.

They were being fed with feeds, grains, vegetables, and different kinds of edible leaves. Body conformation is good to excellent.

Then, ALL OF A SUDDEN, one of the 4 guinea fowls started showing signs of lethargy, poor appetite, and it started isolating itself from the rest. I checked on the said gfowl and i didnt find anything: no oculonasal discharge, vent was clean, no diarrhea, no abnormal breathing sounds.

I transferred the sick one to a separate cage. It was eating and drinking but the amounts really didnt suffice. I didnt want to try handfeeding/forcefeeding again. Did that before but with no success. I also installed a 50w bulb on 1 corner of its cage coz it seems a bit cold. I gave him antibiotic and vitamin shots for the next few days. But no improvement was observed.

GRADUALLY, its condition just continued to deteriorate, until finally (and unfortunately) it succumbed to death.

The same thing happened to the other 3 gfowls. One by one, they suffered the same fate. Now, i lost all 4 gfowls.

I really dont know what happened, or whatever malady afflicted them.

I just dont want this to happen again to the other gfowls.

I want to know what couldve happened to them..

Thank you in advance..

So sorry to hear that! It’s likely too late for t
Your last group, but a necropsy by an expert lab is necessary to tell why they died. Where are you located?

 

[tiktilaok]

Coccidiosis is not always accompanied by blood in the stool. The other symptoms and the timing of the deaths lean towards coccidiosis.

I personally would not feed any of those leaves to my guineas.

The definition of "treats" is anything other than their proper quality feed such as an all flock feed for 4 month old keets.

Understood...

Dont get me wrong, this is really an honest question - is there anything wrong with giving those leaves? Would it do more harm than good?

 

[tiktilaok]

So sorry to hear that! It’s likely too late for t
Your last group, but a necropsy by an expert lab is necessary to tell why they died. Where are you located?

That could be a problem. The nearest lab performing necropsies, is i think ~ 3-4 hrs from my place, not to mention the troublesome travel because of some closed towns, checkpoints, and the like. All due to the pandemic.

 

[R2elk]

Understood...

Dont get me wrong, this is really an honest question - is there anything wrong with giving those leaves? Would it do more harm than good?

What little I researched showed conflicting results. They are not a part of their natural food supply. Some leaves contain toxins that become concentrated as they are drying.

 

[Mixed flock enthusiast]

That could be a problem. The nearest lab performing necropsies, is i think ~ 3-4 hrs from my place, not to mention the troublesome travel because of some closed towns, checkpoints, and the like. All due to the pandemic.

What commercial poultry feeds do you have available to you?

 

[tiktilaok]

What commercial poultry feeds do you have available to you

What commercial poultry feeds do you have available to you?

As with commercial feeds, these are what we use.: free range chicken feeds, pullet developer pellets, and cracked corn