Breed guesses on these 2 ducks?

[timelord1020]

My friend has these two duck and we aren't quite sure what the breed is. We are thinking that they are mixed but don't know what with any guesses would be appreciated we also don't know the gender but they are still young.

 

[Jpat]

No idea but they are beautifulk

 

[crazy4ChickensNducks]

Looks like a black and white magpie. No idea on the other one

 

[Searsmom]

A blue Swedish cross maybe? Or one that doesn't fit the standard? It can happen....

 

[PirateGirl]

I don't think the blue one is a Swedish because it does not have a bib and I'm pretty sure the bib gene is dominant so even a cross would have it. I don't know a ton on color genetics so I could be mistaken.

 

[Searsmom]

I don't think the blue one is a Swedish because it does not have a bib and I'm pretty sure the bib gene is dominant so even a cross would have it. I don't know a ton on color genetics so I could be mistaken.

You're probably right, mine was an off the top of the head guess. Seems like there was such a thing as a blue orpington duck, like the buff ones, that was my first thought, but are they even around anymore?
Edited: I looked it up, sometimes the buff can come out blue due to a blue dilation gene...think throwbacks. But that doesn't explain the black beak and feet.

 

[MagpieDucks]

It could be a Blue Cayuga but I highly doubt.

 

[Miss Lydia]

What ever they are they are gorgeous. soon voice will tell sex.