brown red vs FBCM?

EricH

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is it the same thing? im using the chicken calculator.... ha

wondering if my black copper marans rooster is brown red...
 
The french classify them to be the same but in the USA the two colors are different in the APA SOP. Don
 
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I'm not sure of that. I have never seen the copper color you see in a correct BC in any other brown red bird. I'm not a genetic color expert though. Even the black in the BC looks different to me.

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They may be exactly the same in France but in the USA Brown Red is entirely different chicken. The reason the Marans were called Black Copper. Look in the SOP and you will see that they are different. Don
 
Okay, so with the possible exception of Mahogany, but otherwise both are Birchen/Crow-wing with both gold alleles.
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