Butchering turned necropsy, aka "Would you eat this hen?"

BlueShadow

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What a week in the coop! Two nights ago my rooster decided to commit suicide by sticking his head through the hole in a cinder block and forgetting that "reverse" was an option. He chose "upside down" instead (didn't work out too well for him).

I have been monitoring my hens for signs they are laying eggs because I want to thin out the lazy hens and keep the good layers. Also have been checking to make sure those pesky lice haven't come back. Anyway, this week, 1 hen stood out as "definitely not laying" and her feathers looked a little scruffy, maybe she is starting to molt, well this is too early for that, so into the stew pot she goes.

She was a 3 year old Barnevelder hen. Very active, energetic, hard to catch, I had no other clues that she was sick.
When I skinned her I noticed her crop was empty. Weird, since I caught her at roosting time, but convenient. Didn't think more of it until I cut open the abdomen.
As I nicked the abdominal wall, clear, very pale yellow fluid began to leak out, far more than normal. THAT got my attention. No strings or cloudiness in the fluid. No odor.
As I enlarged the hole, a mass slipped out. It appears to be a shell-less egg, with some egg fluid still inside of it.
Intestines were empty
Gizzard was full of more fibrous material than it should have been - little/no grit, not enough regular feed
Everything else looked okay - heart, lungs, liver, there was still some abdominal fat of a nice yellow color and normal consistency. Her muscle color was a nice pink, didn't appear to be anemic.

My guess is internal laying that was caught early enough she hadn't begun to act sick from it. Question is, would you eat her? I'm not excited about eating her, but I've been out of chicken stock for a long time now and I am disappointed not to be able to make some. Usually when I butcher its very clear cut, the animal was either healthy or very sick. This is enough grey area that I thought I would see what you all think.

As I cut open the abdomen, this is the mass that slipped out. You can see some of the abdominal fluid on the cutting board.

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This shows intestines and the mass is pulled aside

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Let me think about this...
I may be able to cut it away and forget about it and eat the meat..but then..I would probably be grossed out.
It's not like it's full of worms, so I'd guess it's probably safe to eat.
Right?
 
LOL! I don't really even care if I have to toss the meat. What I want is the stock. So the real question is, is there still nutrition in her? (I think there is, she was in good health?) But also, were there inflammatory, infectious, and other nasty compounds in her? (And I am afraid there were, although possibly still at a low level)
 
What a week in the coop! Two nights ago my rooster decided to commit suicide by sticking his head through the hole in a cinder block and forgetting that "reverse" was an option. He chose "upside down" instead (didn't work out too well for him).

I have been monitoring my hens for signs they are laying eggs because I want to thin out the lazy hens and keep the good layers. Also have been checking to make sure those pesky lice haven't come back. Anyway, this week, 1 hen stood out as "definitely not laying" and her feathers looked a little scruffy, maybe she is starting to molt, well this is too early for that, so into the stew pot she goes.

She was a 3 year old Barnevelder hen. Very active, energetic, hard to catch, I had no other clues that she was sick.
When I skinned her I noticed her crop was empty. Weird, since I caught her at roosting time, but convenient. Didn't think more of it until I cut open the abdomen.
As I nicked the abdominal wall, clear, very pale yellow fluid began to leak out, far more than normal. THAT got my attention. No strings or cloudiness in the fluid. No odor.
As I enlarged the hole, a mass slipped out. It appears to be a shell-less egg, with some egg fluid still inside of it.
Intestines were empty
Gizzard was full of more fibrous material than it should have been - little/no grit, not enough regular feed
Everything else looked okay - heart, lungs, liver, there was still some abdominal fat of a nice yellow color and normal consistency. Her muscle color was a nice pink, didn't appear to be anemic.

My guess is internal laying that was caught early enough she hadn't begun to act sick from it. Question is, would you eat her? I'm not excited about eating her, but I've been out of chicken stock for a long time now and I am disappointed not to be able to make some. Usually when I butcher its very clear cut, the animal was either healthy or very sick. This is enough grey area that I thought I would see what you all think.

As I cut open the abdomen, this is the mass that slipped out. You can see some of the abdominal fluid on the cutting board.

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This shows intestines and the mass is pulled aside

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I also wouldn't eat it, but I am sure animals on feed lots are in worse condition and end up at the grocery store.
 
I would make stock with it/her.
That I wouldn't have a problem with, just eating the meat...:sick

And I agree...this is nothing compared to what we buy from the stores...no telling what is wrong with those poor meat birds.
 
I also wouldn't eat it, but I am sure animals on feed lots are in worse condition and end up at the grocery store.

This was an excellent point, and you inspired me to look it up. This carcass would have been condemned at slaughter. Abdominal fluid alone is not enough to condemn a carcass because so many broilers develop ascites, but abdominal fluid with septicemia (there was none), toxemia (there was none), or "any other disease" (I am sure an egg in the abdomen counts as 'other disease') is condemned.

Le sigh.
 
My friend was butchering turkeys, and on one a liquid leaked out. She threw the whole thing out. One hen is not a big loss, so I would say don't eat it. :)
 
Oops. :oops:

I obviously didn't take avian anatomy in school. So that, um "mass".... was the shell gland. Completely normal structure, although maybe it was a bit more stretched out than it should have been. I got clued in when I remembered how chickens lay eggs... they make YOLKS, that then get surrounded by the rest of the egg. If it was an internally laid egg, where was the yolk?

So now the list of abnormalities is empty crop, fiber-packed gizzard, and abdominal fluid. Not as sick of a chicken as I thought, although I still want to know why she wasn't eating???? Huh.
 

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