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Causes for Dead in Shell After Pipping?

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I put 14 eggs into lockdown -- one dubious on candling -- and hatched 10.

The dubious was indeed undeveloped, but of the other three two of them had externally-pipped and one had internally pipped.

Eggtopsy revealed that none had finished absorbing the yolk.

What are the possible causes?

Temperature and humidity had remained constant though I did have to briefly open the incubator twice to remove hatched chicks. But in so doing I didn't lift the lid off the NR360, only had my son tilt it up just far enough for me to get my hand in and rapidly scoop out the dry chicks.

These first two had externally pipped:
1 photo of #1
Pipped DIS 1.jpg


2 photos of #2
pipped DIS 2.jpg

Pipped DIS 2b.jpg

This chick was from an egg with a wonky air cell way down the side but it had internally pipped into the air cell. 2 photos. The flesh of this one had a weird, red color compared to the other two and previous DIS chicks from previous hatches.
Pipped DIS 3.jpg

Pipped DIS 3b.jpg

I suppose that what I really need to know is if it's likely to be anything *I* did to create a poor environment or if it's more likely to be genetic?

Since 4 of the chicks hatched on day 19^ I had to get them out of the incubator and into the brooder but took every precaution to keep the humidity from dropping excessively.


^I suspect pre-incubation since I had broodies and could only collect eggs once a day after work because neither husband nor son are willing to risk being bitten by vicious nest-defenders.
 
I put 14 eggs into lockdown -- one dubious on candling -- and hatched 10.

The dubious was indeed undeveloped, but of the other three two of them had externally-pipped and one had internally pipped.

Eggtopsy revealed that none had finished absorbing the yolk.

What are the possible causes?

Temperature and humidity had remained constant though I did have to briefly open the incubator twice to remove hatched chicks. But in so doing I didn't lift the lid off the NR360, only had my son tilt it up just far enough for me to get my hand in and rapidly scoop out the dry chicks.

These first two had externally pipped:

This chick was from an egg with a wonky air cell way down the side but it had internally pipped into the air cell. 2 photos. The flesh of this one had a weird, red color compared to the other two and previous DIS chicks from previous hatches.

I suppose that what I really need to know is if it's likely to be anything *I* did to create a poor environment or if it's more likely to be genetic?

Since 4 of the chicks hatched on day 19^ I had to get them out of the incubator and into the brooder but took every precaution to keep the humidity from dropping excessively.


^I suspect pre-incubation since I had broodies and could only collect eggs once a day after work because neither husband nor son are willing to risk being bitten by vicious nest-defenders.
sorry wish I could help. I know my broody has gotten up after chicks have externally pipped and they hatched just fine so not thinking opening it to get out chicks harmed them in any way.

I had one DIS with my first hatch that I have no clue what happened. Wish I had helped it sooner though but it had internally pipped and I heard it peeping away. I did end up bringing it in from under my broody to the incubator so I could watch it closer since it hadn't done anything. I had to work that day but my daughter was home to check on it. Figured if nothing I would do a safety hold when I got home. Not sure what time it internally pipped but noticed it peeping the night before when the first one hatched under my broody so didn't think 24 hrs yet. Got home and candled it to do the safety hole and it was gone. did eggtopsy and yolk was fully absorbed all veins absorbed and looked to be in the right position. didn't seem shrink wrapped so it just couldn't externally pip for some reason.
 
Too high humidity chick grows too large and can't turn to zip the egg dies in place

Wouldn't that have affected a higher percentage of the eggs? Or disproportionately affected the smaller eggs?

The chicks in question came from 59, 61, and 67g eggs. The smallest egg I set for this hatch was 54g and it hatched. The 67g egg was the largest I set. The largest hatched egg was 63g at setting.
 
Different eggs have different porosity so some lose moisture faster than others. They can lose moisture during storage so some start out incubation at a different place. Some egg whites have a different thickness or density than others which can affect how fast they lose moisture.

There are several different reasons the same humidity during incubation doesn't work the same for every egg. My goal is to find the humidity that works for the most of the eggs.
 

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