chick can't hatch?

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this is my 1st hatch. and i just now am on day 21. i have 8 eggs.....only one has pipped. if it takes awhile, i understand that. i also understand that it can take up to 24 hours for a chick to zip. but....i guess i'm concerned about how the piping is looking. he pipped only a slight crack at 8:45 am. then a couple hours later, more of a pip....then quite a few hours later, more of a pip. but it doesn't look like he's zipping. the pip is getting bigger, no shell is falling....and the 1st pip started kinda in the middle of the shell but closer to the air shell (this is a bantam egg) and the pip keeps getting a bit bigger while working it's way up the to the air cell. is this normal? or is he struggling? he's also peeping in there from time to time.
 
I had one that pipped at about 8:00 last night and didn't hatch until 8 this morning. Also had one that pipped the wrong end and he took over 24 hours to zip. The one last night just had a big hole, I could see his beak and some feathers. His buddies kept pecking at him, poor thing. I stayed up until 2 AM to watch and a watched egg never hatches.
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Mine were bantams as well.

Just sit tight.
 
Just keep in mind that EVERYONE has different theories on this....

Personally I will leave them alone for 24 hours. If there is some progress...thats awsome and I let them continue with progress. If there is no progress at all after 24 hours and humidity is good then I will take the incubator into a steam filled warm room (bathroom with shower running) and check things out. Usually tap on shell to see if he is still peeping and struggling. You will be able to hear scratching, movement or peeps. If there is nothing...that usually means he didn't make it
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Some people will intervene by opening the shell, I try not to do that, but I will confess I have in the past. Every situation is different and honestly it depends on how much I spent on the eggs.
 
thanks, both of you. it helps me to feel like hopefully he'll be ok.....and also, if something does go wrong...what to do about it. i'm just gonna go to bed tonight and hope to find a nice surprise when i wake up.
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I found this very helpful:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=45583&p=1
Drawdown occurs when the air cell changes shape as the embryo, using the egg tooth, punctures the inner shell membrane and enters the air cell. The egg is designed to allow ease of exit from the egg, and the egg tooth is used to begin unzipping the eggshell in a circular manner, usually at the larger end of the egg.

The initiation of hatch occurs partially from the increased carbon dioxide level in the egg. This causes the embryo to begin twitching it's muscles, allowing the inner shell membrane to be punctured by the egg tooth. The chick then begins breathing the air in the air cell. As the carbon dioxide level begins to rise again, the muscularis complexus (the pipping muscle) at the back of the neck begins twitching again, facilitating the hatch. Abdominal muscles also begin twitching, which helps draw the yolk sac into the coelom. Leg muscle twitching helps strengthen the legs.

Assisting the hatch is a difficult decision, and in this author's experience, many aviculturists will do more harm than good by assisting the hatch. Normally the chick will hatch 24-48 hours after drawdown has occurred. By making a pin-hole in the egg shell over the air cell, the carbon dioxide level will drop, actually slowing the hatch. Making a pin-hole or opening the air cell end of the egg should only be done if the vocalization level of the hatching chick is decreasing or other signs indicating that the chick is in trouble are evident (for example, if the chick doe not pip into the air cell).

Also remember that unlike a mammal, a chick can go three days without food or water, and there is air in a pipped egg, so staying in the shell is not dangerous in the same way that a mammal staying too long in a uterus can be.

Bird embryo's are not supported by placentas as mammals are. Instead there is a network of blood vessels that line the shell and ends up in an umbilical cord that is attacted to the quail at it's "belly button".

When the quail is ready to hatch, it breaks into the air cell and begins to breathe. This triggers the network of supporting blood vessels to begin to shut down. All the blood from these vessels must drain into the quail before it is ready to hatch.

The quail struggles and movement helps this process and by the time it is ready to hatch there is no more blood in the vessels that line the shell.

If the shell is broken before this network of blood vessels has stopped functioning and one or more of these vessels is damaged, there will be bleeding. Baby birds don't have a lot of spare blood and this can be dangerious.

When a mammal is born, the umbilical cord is usually crushed before the baby is born, so it does not bleed. During a caesarean section, the cord is clamped before cutting for the same reason.

It's simply not possable to clamp the cord of a baby bird before breaking the shell, so opening the egg while that network of blood vessels is still functioning will cause many to be torn which would be the same as tearing open (or removing) the placenta while the baby is still using it. The baby will bleed to death.​
 
thanks for that great info poltroon! i loved reading that. it helps to know just exactly what the heck is going on in there. i have a pretty good feeling that i'll have something exciting to wake up to. i'll be happy if i get just one chick outta this.....well, i wouldn't want the others to die......but u know what i mean. if this hatch does NOT go well, i would almost have to attribute it to being shipped eggs. cuz honestly, i know this is my 1st hatch....but i've spent MANY o' hours over BYC and other websites researching how to do each step before it's done. i've kept my temps steady around 99. my humidity from days 1-18 was 30-48 % sometimes a tad more, sometimes a tad less. then at lockdown i have had my humidity at 65% at first...then it went to 74% for an hour or so and then it's been pretty steady at 67-70%. i have not opened the bator since the end of day 19 (no pips at that time....trying to adjust humidity). so....we'll see how it goes.
 
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i have chicks hatching right now and the first one to pip pipped on Sunday moring and htched this morning, tuesday. The last chick to pip on sunday night, around 8 pm, was out at 5 30 monday morning. two chicks have pipped yesterday but still aren't out. both are chirping so thats a good sign. every chicken needs to take its own time to hatch. just make sure you DON'T help it. The way i look at it, if it can't hatch by itself it won't survive later in life. sadly, one of mine started to pip, it actually got 2 holes done, but i think it kinda died, i dunno, i just very impatient and hate waiting. thats why i got an incubator, the hen wasn't sitting on the eggs soon enough!
 
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wow....interesting how some takes days and others just a matter of a few hours. well, my chick sounds strong...especially the past hour...he doesn't chirp constantly, but when he does, it's been getting a bit louder. so i'm thinkin' he'll hatch while i'm sleeping. i'm with you on not helping the chicks. but i also know that even though i believe it's best to leave a chick alone...i seriously bet i would probably try to help if it needed it. it would be hard for me to NOT help. but i know that it's best not to. i would have to try hard not to. anyway, off to bed. i'm tired! i'll let everyone know what happens in the a.m.! good luck to everyone out there that's hatching eggs!
 
My advice is to make sure the beak is not wrapped. If it isn't, wait the whole 24 hours. If you decide to help it out, started with the top where the head is and GO VERY SLOWLY. It will become clear quickly if the chick is shrink wrapped. As long as you have made sure it's beak is clear it is breathing and can be saved. Trust me. Poor Elmer my polish chick is STILL glued a little, but it's fine!!!!!

If you see any veins at all STOP and put it back in the bator - that means it is not done absorbing the yolk. Good luck!!!

Here the one that I helped out:

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