Does the air sack have veins?

[Zippy007]

Do they have veins?

My last hatch had difficulty pipping into the air sack as it was really thick, the set before that were done exactly the same way temp humidity had no problems, are they diferent egg to egg? can you help to pip the air sack?

 

[Sweetlilbaby]

They are different egg to egg. Even from the same flock you can get a few with thin shells, and some with extra thick shells. Each chicken is eating different amounts of bugs, grass/weeds, and grain.

 

[Zippy007]

does the membrain at the top of egg/air sack have veins as i am going to attempt to help if this next chick has difficulty pipping but i dont want to damage the chick i dont think there is veins in this area but just want to be sure

 

[silkiechicken]

There are no veins in the area where the air sac is, however, you should also not be opening that bator during a hatch to keep the humidity up. Low humidity can create issues in hatching.

 

[Zippy007]

i have them on lockdown for last 3 days at 75-85% humidity all my previous chicks have been fine but these eggs have a thick shell and they are finding it hard i lost one overnight he zipped egg removing only shell all membrain still in tact so i take it he suffercated in the night when i removed the dead chick from its shell the inside was dry and membrain thick the chick didnt stand a chance

fingers crossed for his sibling whos due tomorrow, i am definatly going to crack down on my hens diet tho i feel sorry for them and give them treats to often i need to stop by the sounds of things

 

[silkiechicken]

Sounds like you are doing a staggered hatch if the eggs are not all due on the same day? If this is the case, that is probably the reason your first eggs were fine and these later ones have issues. Even if you hold the incubator at the stated humidity, when you open the bator, it can cause issues for the later chicks.

 

[Zippy007]

is there anything i can do shell i attempt to help! i feel i should be
i might just make a small hole in air sack and see how we are doing i have 1 egg due today the egg has not moved iv hurd no peeping so im going to candle egg later and see if the chick is alive before i do attempt to help the shell is really thick and i dont think this little guy stands a chance alone i will defo not incubate eggs at different times in the future

 

[silkiechicken]

Biggest risk in prematurely piping an egg is if you break the membrane yourself. That will certainly cause a bleed out if it's not ready. Some chicks are late, for all you know it's already gone. If you have other eggs due to hatch later, best to not open that bator.

 

[Margitas]

First ,75-85% humidity is way to high you chick grow so fast and get so big ,they not able to move and die in the eggs.
For last 3 day you dont touch the incubator or hatcher.
I keep all the time first 18 day humidity 40-45 last 3 day 55-60 .

 

[Egghead_Jr]

I agree with above poster that 80% humidity is far too high. I run the same humidity as Margitas, though do find it hard to keep it under 60% once they start piping. Keep hatching but do try your next at those humidity's to see if your hatch rate greatly increases.

Secondly, many folks here do try to aid chicks if having difficulty hatching. I never wanted too but this last spring hatch allowed my partner to aid the two that were struggling. Both ended up needing further attention as they didn't have the same vigor as unaided chicks, needed washing to get album off butts and both needed band-aid shackles for splayed leg. Yes they were the last to hatch that batch and by weeks end both died (one I put out of misery). It's hard sometimes to let nature do it's work but it's for the best both for the chicks involved who many times end with lingering deaths or living with a malady that hinders it from being a member of the healthy flock.

Good luck and don't give up.