Dominique Rooster with Barred Rock hen, what do you get?

[G Wiz Ranch]

I have a Dominique rooster and some of my hens are Barred rocks, what would I get if I crossed them? Will the chicks be able to be sexed as chicks like sexlinks? The person I got the rooster from thought it was a Barred Rock so I drove a ways to get him. When I got there, I immediately knew it was a Dominique because of the large rose comb. I took him anyways, he was free. He has been out of quranteen for 3 weeks now, and all is ok. I was thinking about breeding him with my Barred Rock hens, but I kind of want to know what I will get if I do. Any ideas. Thanks

 

[blackdotte]

You will get chickens that will basically be like their parents, but the comb will favour the Dominique and the barring more like the Rock.
The male chicks at birth will be lighter in colour with larger white head spot, the pullets darker,smaller head spots and darker coloured legs.
David

 

[kuntrygirl]

what's the difference between a Dominique and a Barred Rock? i always thought they were 2 different types but some of the older people around here always tell me they are the same.

 

[can you hear me now?]

I can't say with certainty, but I vaguely remember reading that the difference from barred rocks and Domoniques were the combs. I don't know if that is a certain thing but that is something that I think I read hopefully someone that knows for sure can tell you better than I can.

 

[walkswithdog]

Dominiques are CUCKOO patterned - fuzzy thin, not straight bars.

Barred Rocks are BARRED, clear, defined bars, the more straight and defined the better, thicker bars, brighter whites, no fuzzies.

Two completely different breeds in body type and comb type and pattern.

If your rocks LOOK in body type like a Dom - then they don't look like proper Rocks. If your doms look like Rocks in body type, then they don't look like proper Doms.

And their combs are different.

Doms are closer feathered, stand taller, body build different, tail set is totally different from a proper Rock.

What I do see too much of is crosses being called one or the other and being wrong. But when you're talking poor hatchery quality rocks and doms bred by people who wouldn't know the Standard if you hit em in the head with it, then yeah you lose type so much - that it's hard to tell and birds get mixed and you still would have to hit people upside the head with the Standard to get them to be able to tell.

I have had to print the standard for Rocks for a friend - who had NO idea there WAS a standard.

He may be teaching me a lot about poultry keeping but I'm having to teach HIM about breed standards, and the differences between hatchery birds and BREEDER birds.

He is beginning to LIKE what he sees but no one had EVER told him (in his 60's) that there was a written standard for each breed.

 

[walkswithdog]

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Most OLDER poultry folk don't even know there are written standards with pictures.

Buy the black and white APA Standards Book and meet the world of actually doing this right. All the differences are there, the pictures really help you select for type and it helps tons in sorting out MUTTS from what you are sold.

If you KNOW the breed standards in the breeds you want it's a LOT easier to prevent taking in mutts when you want purebreds.

 

[Chris09]

Here is a picture of a good Dom.. He is not my bird... I found it on poultry press...

Chris

http://www.poultrypress.com/images/american/DominiqueLargeFowlmale.jpg

And here is a good Barred Rock it is not my bird but you got to love a real Barred Rock....

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/2958039

Chris

 

[walkswithdog]

Comparing apples to apples...

Look at the Dom male

then look at this..

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/2958039

Totally different birds. Couldn't confuse two good specimens of the breeds side by side at all.

Dom huge upright carriage, closer feather, tail UP, shorter back. Cuckoo is a fuzzy looking coloration, bright and thinly marked, the best doms having some better seperation.

Rock shorter carriage, broader moderately long back, tail carriage is much lower ( I love Frank Reese birds) more feather. The whole idea of build and movement and barring is a completely different style of bird.

 

[Chris09]

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I know what your talking about.. I just had to post Franks birds for a Barred Rock picture....

Chris

 

[walkswithdog]

Yeah Frank's birds ROCK - pun intended.