extreme makeover questions

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Mar 13, 2008
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Please bear w/ me; this may be long due to my trying to explain everything clearly.
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My current chicken house (my mom has a fit and says, "that's not a COOP! It's a chicken house! -- hereafter since Mom's not reading it, for the sake of ease & speed in typing, it shall be referred to as the "coop"
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) OK, the coop is a converted shed with interior floor space of approx. 10'X12'. There are wide (approx. 10") shelves around the entire length of 3 walls. No insulation, no interior wallboard, just the studs w/ the outer wall sheathing nailed to them. Peaked roof, approx. 8' high where roof joins walls, then about 2' higher at the peak. There is a 6' long ridge vent in the roof. I'd put some styrofoam insulation just laying on the rafters to try to keep them warmer in the winter. The bantam OEGBs were persistent and kept flying up & eating it (chicken popcorn
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). When I took it out they started roosting on the rafters, which they REALLY seem to enjoy b/c it gives them space when they want it. Last summer I had a guy come out to do replace some rotten wood (basically the bottom 2-3 feet all around the bottom of the chicken house. My idea was to replace it w/ new wood, and put a small vent (a cut-out approx. 1' long, 6" high, and covered with the hardware mesh) in two places on each side for some ventilation. I was gone when he was working on it. My DH told the guy to remove all the bottom wood and make BIG hinged doors and staple hardware mesh the entire length of both sides and the back.
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It sounded good to him in theory, but it's too open and the little guys who sleep on the floor or near the walls (some silkies & frizzle bantams) are afraid. Aside from that, it was EXTREMELY drafty this winter. I had to pile lots of hay around the outside walls and put duct tape on the open crack where the doors joined the rest of the wall b/c of all the air blasting through. I know ventilation is a good friend in the winter, but this was arctic express type wind.
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A friend had to give up 7 of her chickens b/c of her neighbors, and I agreed to take them for her. (I had already taken some frizzle roos and a turkey previously b/c of her neighors. This friend wants to do an "extreme makeover" and redo the coop. Some of the things she wants to do are: put down new flooring, add a couple of windows, replace the door, fix the walls, insulate, run electricity out there (been using an extension cord run about 75' from the garage), run a water line, haul in gravel & sand for the run, run electric wire around the chain link (something got into the run, somehow got into the completely covered & roofed chainlink (wrapped in the small chicken wire -- checked for torn holes & found none) run and killed one of my ducks, so they're still not safe), maybe put a hangover roof bumped out over the front door, and some cute touches like maybe a window box or two, and last but not least, add a cupola to mount the beautiful weather vane she got! That's a LOT of makeover! Another friend of mine suggested that while we're at it, we put a utility tub by the corner of the chicken house or add a sink inside to have a place to scrub waterers and feeders without dragging them into the house and back out. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas that you think should be implemented, or have any input as to what has been a GREAT success, or ideas you've tried that maybe have NOT been a stellar success? I don't want to take advantage of her extreme generosity, but she really DOES want to go all-out and fix everything that needs to be fixed once and for all to make a safe, secure, easy to clean and maintain home for my birds and hers. I could really use some input and advice here! TIA!
 
The shed is several years old and has good "bones", but the roof overhang is not very wide at the sides, front, or back. The shed sits on runners at the corners (I didn't put it up, so I'm not sure if there are any blocks under the center part, or if it's just the thick wood all the way around & under). The sides are like a wood sheathing type siding (not very thick, probably the cheapest outdoor sheathing that was available at the time), and over time the rain running down and dripping off the bottom, and water splashing UP and keeping the bottom wet caused it to rot. The upper parts (almost everything about that approx. 2 to 2 1/2' from the bottom) was still sound. I am debating on getting an estimate for vinyl siding on it. If I can find an installer who'd put it up for a reasonable price, there are a couple of listings in craigslist for vinyl siding for what seems to be a very good price -- one of them is for 4 squares at $100 total. I'm not sure how much it would take to put siding on a chicken house that size.
 
Ideally, that's what should be done. I checked w/ someone about extending the roof, and they said it would be difficult but not impossible to do. I'll check into both options and add them to the "wish list".
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the gutter should be fairly inexpensive.

depending on how the roof pitches, and how much aesthetics matter to you, you could just lay corrugated roofing out over where the roof ends now
 
I had thought about using some heavy wood screws and adding some length to the rafters (maybe a couple of feet) and extending it at least on the sides. I've also considered getting an estimate for siding and going that route if it's not outrageous. That way the wood would be protected and should last a lot longer. I've got to do something, and it seems that way I won't have to keep replacing the wood every couple of years. The exterior grade plywood the guy used to fix it last summer is already warping and swelling on the bottom edge, and now the edge of the sheathing where he cut the old wood off is staying wet and starting to spread too.
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yes, got to make the time, got to wait for some of the standing water (still 8" deep in places in the run, and DEEP mud out there to dry out enough to walk out there (we're talking boot-sucking, over the top of my Bogs swamp shoes,
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funky smelling mud ) any suggestions on that part? I think I'm resigned to having to manually shovel out some of the mud and haul it out by wheelbarrow or garden cart just to get down to the real "dirt". How much lime should I spread to counteract the stink? (I'm sure my sweet neighbor will be ETERNALLY grateful for any input here, bless her heart ... ) Got to prioritize my "wish list" and get the major things done first, then the other "cosmetic" or "would be nice" things can wait if they have to.
 

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