fowel pox

[paridisefarm2009]

]Does anyone know if this is actually fowel pox on my chicken and if anyone has gone through this before , My poor rooster Looks horrable and his feet too , Help anyone with any insite Thank you
And if anyone can help me add the photo that would be great , Man I didnt think this would be so difficult .................

okay I got the photo finally . I guess it is avian pox ? I was reading some other info with photos
Any one ever go through this please let me know how it turned out I am so worried about my rooster thank you

 

[purpletree23]

Foul pox is caused by mosquitos. From what I've read you can treat each pox with a q-tip dipped in iodine. It will help them dry up faster. Add poultry vitamins to their water or go to CVS or Walmart and get liquid baby vitamins called Poly Vi Sol. Get them WITHOUT IRON. Give each chicken 2 drops in the beak in the morning and 2 drops at night. You have full grown birds so I think that dose is proper. I would do that for at least a week.

They need to have a good diet right now to fight this problem so in addition to their poultry feed give them chopped greens, some strawberries or blueberries and plain yogurt. No fruit in the yogurt. Give the treats but not too many.

Good luck treating. They have you to take care of them so they will be fine.

 

[threehorses]

You might find this post of interest:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=228358

Your case of fowl pox looks just like one I have going on right now, only mine is a little more orange. Sometimes they look more like the ones in the reference post in the thread I linked above. But they can look like yours.

The legs are a little different ... hard to see, looks more like scaley leg. But pox attacks all non-feathered areas so it could still be pox.

Even if this is not pox, the treatment I've outlined in the thread above works for what you have. If it's scaley leg, you will need to treat for that. Any chance of a very close up picture of one of those legs possibly, pretty please?

 

[paridisefarm2009]

Hear are the feet photos
One almost looks like a club foot

Can they pass this pox stuff to eachother ? Do I need to move him to his own cage until he is better . He seams to be getting around as normal and still mateing , Should I worry about the eggs , I know so many questions , But I am new since march 2009 with chickens and still am learning thank you all for all your help

 

[threehorses]

He has a strong case of scaley leg, which is caused by mites living under the scales, causing inflammation and crustiness. I wonder now if his comb issues might be caused by body mites?

It's possible for them to be two different situations. But I would definitely check him carefully for mites - at night after they're on their roosts. The mites are just nearly microscopic dots that move fast on the birds - particularly near their vents, under the wings, back of the necks, etc. You should also put your hands on the wood near the bedding at the bottom of walls, on roosts, at night and see if you can't catch them on the wood or on any of your other birds.

What's this guys' worming history? The best way to treat is with Ivomectin, but if you use the pour-on you don't want to do so without doing a Wazine (piperazine 17%) worming two weeks before if he hasn't been wormed in over 6 months with a broad spectrum or in over 2 months with wazine.

If he hasn't been wormed recently, soak his legs in water to soften. try to remove whatever excess scaliness you can gently. Pat dry. Then use 1% ivermectin injectable and paint that on his legs. Then use a little olive oil on top of that (not vaseline). Repeat the following week.

As for removing him, not really necessary. Just make sure that you don't see any other birds with any raised scales on their legs. If you do, treat them as well. It wouldn't hurt to dust them all with "permethrin" poultry dust. Be sure the active ingredient is permethrin, not any other 'methrin or chemical. It's usually sold in a shaker can and called "poultry dust", "lice dust", "garden and poultry dust", or "livestock mite and louse dust". The active ingredient listed on the label should always be permethrin.

If you find mites on the birds or wood, you'll want to get the liquid permethrin (Goat lice spray with permethrin as the active ingredient, or livestock spray, or Ectiban EC) and spray the roosts, wood, etc. PoultryProtector is an enzymatic cleaner that cleans mite eggs off of wood and lice eggs off of birds - it can be handy, but treating and then repeating in 7 days as the mites hatch out is the way to go really.

 

[MandyH]

That doesn't look like pox to me.

 

[paridisefarm2009]

I have never done any worming is this somthing i need to do regulary ?
and as far as the dusting Is it Just powder you put on the bird?
Thank you all for everyones help with my questions. I also have seen a little bit of that legg stuff on another bird in that flock.

 

[threehorses]

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On the worming, yes - it is good to do. They can technically live with some worms, but it causes a constant state of slight inflammation where the worms are, they make scars in the digestive tract if they burrow, and they steal their food - so they lower their immunity. I just worm twice a year with something broad-spectrum. For an unwormed flock, just worm with Wazine 17 (piperazine 17) first. Then go back and worm with something like fenbendazole (safeGuard for horses or goats), pour-on cattle ivermectin, albendazole (Valbazen), levamisole, etc. One of those will do the trick as the second worming.

How many do you have with this bird? Soak the legs of at least the two effected birds in warm water with some very gentle soap VERY dilute in it (ivory, or better yet - something like Nolvasan antiseptic diluted to a capful per a quarter of water. Scrub the legs with a toothbrush to get rid of the excess scaliness. The scaliness is made both by the gunk coming from mites that are burrowing under the skin (quite like mange mites do) as well as the products of irritation of the skin itself. Pat dry. Then you can use the 1% ivermectin on the legs. Dilute with a little water to get it to soak in. Or you can worm with ivermectin 5% cattle pour-on (PM me for the dosages) and you'll get the second worming done and be able to do it usually twice annually with ivermectin thereafter. ONLY use the 'broad spectrum' type wormers on birds over four months who have been wormed with wazine first.

I suspect the marks on the comb are also scaley mites which can and do migrate to combs as well, though they are more commonly found under the scales of the legs.

Still continue to give the vitamins, etc, as this will be good for their immunity.

Summary:

Worm with Wazine.
Get started on working on the legs by soaking and scrubbing. (You can put olive oil on them after the cleansing). repeat the oil part daily until 2 weeks later.

Two weeks later:
Worm with ivermectin pour-on (birds over four months) which will kill the mites and the rest of the worms. (Reworm birds under four months with wazine two weeks from this date).

Continue oil for another week.

Note: Sometimes the scales will bleed after you kill the mites as they dislodge from the skin. Be forewarned. It is normal. That's just an indication of exactly how much damage they do under those scales where we can't see.

The scales might not return to normal, but at least the issue won't be there anymore.

On dusting, permethrin (the chemical you want - check the active ingredient on the label) usually comes in a handy shaker can. I find it handy but a little annoying. So I wear gloves, shake some into my hand, and then use my hand to put the powder on the birds - under their wings, under and around their vent, under their bellies, back of neck - use your gloved hand to ruffle the stuff in at each place as you apply it. Try to keep it out of their mouths and eyes. You'll get the feel of it. Repeat in 7 days.

 

[paridisefarm2009]

Thank you !

 

[threehorses]

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Anytime, hon.

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