Going to the Coop at Night and Trust

MrKnittle

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May 6, 2020
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I have had a heck of a time with my flock. In previous posts, I explained duckling deaths, etc, and the result is a buff flock of five with two of them 10 weeks old and the other three 7 weeks old. I kept them separate for a month and merged them together seamlessly at that time. One of the 10 week old hens has become the leader of the flock. She was larger than the other four at that time, almost like she was hatched a day or two earlier, and was always terrified of me for some reason. The others, when they were little, would let me hold them, and would come to me when I called, etc. After I put them all together, she became the leader, and now, all of the rest of them act terrified of me. They will sometimes start to come to me when I call them, but she will quack at them or head the opposite way, and they will follow.

As I was building the coop, I would let them in a penned in area during the day with a swimming pool and treats, then had them trained to go inside at night in a larger kid's pool in the garage. All was ok. Four days ago, I moved them to the new coop and run. In my rush to get them moved, I didn't notice that the outside pen had a small space that they could squeeze through. They all escaped and went directly into my 1/3 acre pond. The first night, I was able to corner them in the garage in their old pen and carry them two by two to the new coop. The second night, I got them into the outside pen, cornered them, and carried them into the secure run. Last night, I was out until after 11pm trying to get them back in, but they refused to come in off of the pond. I was angry, frustrated, and exhausted, and knew I couldn't chase them all night in the dark. I know now that I should have not let them out that second night and kept them in for awhile, but since I was able to get them in, I didn't think there would be an issue last night.

We have a plague of raccoons in the neighborhood that tear up everything. They split open everyone's trash that was set out for pickup night before last. I didn't sleep well at all last night and had multiple nightmares of bloody wings, half-alive ducks strewn around the yard.

I woke up at 4am this morning, grabbed a flashlight, and headed out, expecting the worst. They were all still alive and unharmed, swimming on the pond. They looked exhausted, yet skittish, and kept swim-sliding at every little thing in the water. At first I thought a raccoon was swimming after them, but I didn't see it if it was.

My question is, what do I do? Do I try to round them up and lock them in the pen for a few weeks to 'reset' them to know that's their safe space? Do I let them do what they are doing? My worry with that is if they do decide to retire to the pen after I'm in for the night, that they will literally be sitting ducks for the raccoons. Any suggestions on how to round them up again at this point? Up until last night, they always came running when I shook the mealworm bag, but they kept looking to her the entire time, and she wasn't interested. Do I separate or even cull her (gasp) for continuously putting the entire flock in danger?

Any advice would be welcome.
 
The farmer in me says the logical thing would be to cull or rehome "Big Momma" to save the rest however I have chickens, guineas, quail and emu, but no ducks so perhaps someone with more experience with ducks will have other ideas. Good luck!
 
Sorry to hear your having such a difficult time with things. If you are unable to set live traps for the Raccoons and relocate them far away. You may try calling your local wildlife game and fish and explain the situation with the Raccoons. In most cases they will send someone out to address the infestation. Good luck and please keep us posted.
 
We established ritual, and that has worked for us. Our guys get a soup when we call them in after morning free range/foraging and then again after night free range/foraging. The soup consists of peas in water (warm in the winter) with fresh greens and mealworms sprinkled on top. They come running as soon as they hear the "Hey, Ducklings! If you're ready, it's time for soup for ducks!"


At night, we close them in the fenced area around the run while they eat their soup, and then we invite them for the "flock party," and they all run in the run and wait for mealworms.
 
Thanks, everyone! Miraculously, I just managed to lure them in from the opposite side of the pond with shaking the mealworm bag! I rebuilt the outside pen this morning before work, so they can't escape. I think I'm cutting off access to the pond for a couple of weeks to get them retrained. I'll give them a larger kiddie pool now that the big brooder pool is available. I fill the pool with a surface pump out of the pond, so there's no water issues. I am going to try to establish a routine with the soup at the same time every night while they are in the pen and coop, and hopefully it will transfer when I let them out again.
 

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Sorry to hear your having such a difficult time with things. If you are unable to set live traps for the Raccoons and relocate them far away. You may try calling your local wildlife game and fish and explain the situation with the Raccoons. In most cases they will send someone out to address the infestation. Good luck and please keep us posted.
My nephew is going to trap them and humanely dispatch them when he gets back from vacation. I asked his dad a month or so ago to do it, but he never got around to it. It is illegal in Ohio to relocate them, but they can be euthanized.
 
UPDATE:

After being grounded for a week and a half, everyone is doing much better at minding me. I took @3bird's advice and have been giving them a pea/mealworm/greens/ACV/tuna soup each night at 8pm, while calling, "All ducks go to bed!!" They have responded beautifully to this. I still toss them some mealworms during the day into the pond, which they love. It's getting to the point that whenever they see me outside, they start waddling towards me lickety-split, until they realize I have no worms or soup...lol. The insubordinate 'alpha' female, River Song, has calmed down, too. Grounding must have done her well, and she recognizes me as the alpha now. She's actually getting a bit sweeter.

My drake, Captain Quack Harkness, is just the best and the cutest. He is bigger than everyone else now, but has the cutest little whistle/raspy squeak, where the girls are honking like geese. I've gotten to the point that I'll argue with girls by quacking back at them, and I'll softly whistle to Captain Quack, he always side-eyes me, then waddles towards me.

As for the raccoons, we caught one just this morning, and my brother-in-law took care of it. He's a master hunter (compared to me), and he said there's a huge overpopulation of raccoons in our area, and they're carrying diseases and are aggressive. He counted nine of them hit on the road this morning coming down my road. The one we got this morning was a juvenile, about one or two years old, and just plain mean. I believe that's the one that I've been seeing, as we caught him over by where he is scatting and where I've seen him coming from.

Thanks again for all of the advice! The ducks are fat and goofy and getting sweeter by the day. I just can't wait until they start laying, but I've got another 8 months or so until eggs :(
 
UPDATE:

After being grounded for a week and a half, everyone is doing much better at minding me. I took @3bird's advice and have been giving them a pea/mealworm/greens/ACV/tuna soup each night at 8pm, while calling, "All ducks go to bed!!" They have responded beautifully to this. I still toss them some mealworms during the day into the pond, which they love. It's getting to the point that whenever they see me outside, they start waddling towards me lickety-split, until they realize I have no worms or soup...lol. The insubordinate 'alpha' female, River Song, has calmed down, too. Grounding must have done her well, and she recognizes me as the alpha now. She's actually getting a bit sweeter.

My drake, Captain Quack Harkness, is just the best and the cutest. He is bigger than everyone else now, but has the cutest little whistle/raspy squeak, where the girls are honking like geese. I've gotten to the point that I'll argue with girls by quacking back at them, and I'll softly whistle to Captain Quack, he always side-eyes me, then waddles towards me.

As for the raccoons, we caught one just this morning, and my brother-in-law took care of it. He's a master hunter (compared to me), and he said there's a huge overpopulation of raccoons in our area, and they're carrying diseases and are aggressive. He counted nine of them hit on the road this morning coming down my road. The one we got this morning was a juvenile, about one or two years old, and just plain mean. I believe that's the one that I've been seeing, as we caught him over by where he is scatting and where I've seen him coming from.

Thanks again for all of the advice! The ducks are fat and goofy and getting sweeter by the day. I just can't wait until they start laying, but I've got another 8 months or so until eggs :(
Great update! Thanks. Glad things are looking up. It sounds like you have a great duck family!
 

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