Golden pheasant genetics

[DylanP]

Hi everyone, i recently got a pair of juvenile yellow goldens and i was wondering if i imported birds which would be the best choices for breeding unrelateds and new color mutations, my options are red, yellow , flame red , flame yellow and lady amherst , also can wing tags be removed?

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Why would you want to remove wing tags?

 

[DylanP]

Well i dont really agree with the whole putting a tag in their wing i like the beauty of the birds and id rather leg tag them if possible

 

[DylanP]

I forgot to mention they would be stored separately anyhow and any offspring would be separate from each pair

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Yeah, but if the wing band is already there, I think it would be worse to try and take it out.


You should just stick with more yellows for breeding

 

[DylanP]

True , I usually never get tagged birds like that but got no choice really , im going with another set of yellow , red and Lady Amherst, i can get more colors this spring , i like the different mutations so i was wondering what the reds and yellows throwed , I’ll eventually get another set of lady amherst

 

[007Sean]

True , I usually never get tagged birds like that but got no choice really , im going with another set of yellow , red and Lady Amherst, i can get more colors this spring , i like the different mutations so i was wondering what the reds and yellows throwed , I’ll eventually get another set of lady amherst

Both Red and Yellow goldens when crossed with an Amherst will phenotypically look the same!

 

[wildlifeartist1]

I posted some in Hybrid Pheasants the 4th and 6 pic are Amherst/Yellow G
the hens are white they look just like Yellows
PS Where does the red come from?

 

[007Sean]

The only way the hen could have been Yellow in phenotype, is if both breeding stock had the recessive gene for the Yellow phenotype. In others words, the Amherst cross had the recessive yellow gene. It wasn't a pure Amherst that was bred with the Yellow Golden hen. Also, the chance of that happening is on a huge mathematical scale.

Along time ago, when I was around 12, I tried crossing Amherst with Yellow goldens. I was hoping to get a mutation or an actual cross that would look like a Yellow Amherst or a 'dilute Amherst'. I experimented with them for 6 years, never got a Yellow Amherst! For those that are concerned about keeping them pure...these never left my place alive. I did taxidermy back then and had no problem selling the mounted birds to interior design folks.

Amherst cock x Yellow hen and Yellow cock x Amherst hen. I never got a single bird that had the recessive trait. The cocks all looked like a cross between a Amherst x Red Golden. The hens looked like Amherst hens with either slightly reddish feathers on their crest or had the Golden appearance on their crests. Cockbirds creast's were varying colors from Yellow, Orange and Red. Some of the hens had white spotting between the barring on their tail feathers.
Some of the cockbirds had either an Amherst pattern to their tail feathers(white with black barring and spots) others had brown tail feathers with mottled barring and spots like a Red Golden. Some of the males had just a spot of white/cream at the point of the wing on the breast. Others had varying degrees (length) of the cream colored band running across the breast.

The red color on the breast, comes about by the Red Golden's genes... Yellows, originally came about by a true mutation of the Red Golden. So, it's possible to have Red Golden parent stock to throw a Yellow...if both have the recessive gene, inwhich case, the parent stock wasn't pure.

Here's one with the Amherst colored tail feathers.

Amherst cockbird x Yellow hen
This bird is 14 months old!

 

[DylanP]

the differences in the amherst crosses are interesting, does anyone know how i could possibly breed for peach goldens and stuff ?