GOOD and BAD NEWS- Update?**Shaking Girl

For any hen on antibiotics I always start a half of a pill of acidophilus. I've never had any of my hens have an interest in yogurt when they are sick, but I sure can pop in a pill easily enough. Plus I'm just not convinced that any form of dairy is easy on their guts (since I am pretty sure they are lactose intolerant) regardless of what I have always read on forums. I do think it can cause diarrhea and I'm just stubborn so I can't be convinced otherwise LOL.

Also, I am a big proponent of eggs. Excellent protein source. If you have a hen not drinking or eating, go to your grocery store or look up egg powder online (use plain egg powder whites only to start for two days found in the baking area in a grocery store and then progress to whole egg powder). This stuff rocks. You can mix it up and suck it into a syringe like a dream. Makes taking care of a critically ill hen a dream for that period of time when you can't make them eat or drink. Also popping cat (good protein) or dog food (good for weight gain) into their mouths just to get their guts going is helpful after they are stable but only if they aren't eating on their own. Otherwise it's next to impossible to get protein into a sick hen. I also highly recommend pet store crickets but not too much as they are fed a high calcium diet.

This will also be helpful with your hen walking close to the ground. That sounds like transient paralysis from mareks. I have it in my flock. It can come with intense protein loss like with a severe moult. I've never seen it in a mild moult, just a brittle moult where the hen goes nearly bald all at once. Protein is their immunity and when the body has such an intense need for protein to replace the feathers, it brings the mareks out of dormancy. This same strain can also cause a permanent type of mareks that doesn't go away so just watch for that in any age range of your girls in the future. I have lost two to it in the past and just recently had another take to it but thankfully prayed about it and discovered the powder I mentioned.

I think if they just walk sideways a bit with moulting that they are generally able to eat enough protein to ward off becoming completely crippled, but if they get mareks from some other form of stress and stop eating, you have got to get some serious amounts of protein in them ASAP as soon as you notice symptoms (even if you think it may not be mareks, or are hoping it isn't, always err on the side of caution) or else it can set in permanently and that hen will die in about 9-10 weeks from wasting. But it sounds like your little gal just needs a boost if she is still getting around but walking close to the ground. Lasts for as long as the moult does, generally about 2-3 weeks.

Now, the only time I have seen the lifting of the leg (w/o any other abnormality present) and holding it up is when they are cold and trying to pull their foot into their bodies. Sometimes they'll just sit on a cold ground to warm up their feet too.

Also one of the first things I do when I notice that "off" look with them is to check their crops first thing in the morning. Sometimes it can be a small hard golfball size mass where their crops aren't emptying enough, or there can be the opposite with a saggy mushy feel. It just makes them feel awful. I've dealt with both. LMK if you experience that and I can just share what works for me.

Good luck and I hope your girls feel better soon. I have two chronically ill hens I am working with right now too so my heart bleeds for others in the same situation. Gotta run my 14 month old has taken over the keyboard lol. Keep us posted!
 
Ok my little girl is getting so much better from an activity side, she is eating like crazy, walking a lot better but really has bad poo (I think??) She is going about 15-20 times a day and there is a lot of liquid! I feel terrible for her as I was going to put her back with the others tonight (and being one of her other sick sisters in) but I can't as I worry about her liquid poo.

I am feeding her nothing but some scratch( Producers Pride) and Layer (Dunmore 16% layer) and a small dish of water (which she is finishing). I also give her 1 scrambled egg in the morning (every other day) and 3 table spoons of yogurt every other day; She has been off the antibiotic for 43-4 days now.

Is her poo normal? What am I doing wrong?
I also picked her up today and she is so skinny-I can feel her breast bone really well- is that normal? If not what else can I do?

The other girls are getting the same layer and scratch in hanger feeders, they get yogurt as a treat 1x week and birdseed 2xweek as a treat now and that is it. My older "mommy" is walking so slow as I think I need to get her in the house and clean her bum. I worry about cutting any featers as I understand some contain blood back there? How do you tell? I saw her poo and it looks a bit green with lots of white liquid.

I know if I take any of them to the vet just the visit is ($75 ea) then anything else is extra.

I bought a wormer it is called Wazine 17 to try and worm them as well but it says if they are already sick or wesk don't give it to them (on the label)??

Sorry to ask all of these questions, I am just feeling at my end with what to do! Thanks so much for all your help ! I really appreciate it
 
Lactose intolerant ppl can eat yogurt (the process it undergoes takes care of the lactose) ... and while the problem with milk (lactose intolerance ) is well known you can and should offer a bird after antibiotics, a good quality live culture yogurt to help restore gut flora.
You need to put your bird on electrolytes immediately (she is probably skinny from dehydration).
cut out the scratch .
 
OK my little girl went outside tonight and back with her sisters. They were not exactly happy to see her and picked on her a bit and she could only run away from them (I felt just terrible) When it was time for the others to go in and to roost she looked at me and kept crying and tried to follow me back up to the house again- My heart just broke ! She is in there roosting but still didn't have the strength to get up by herself (she tried 3 times) - I had to lift her up- UUUGGHH So we will see how she does with them and watch as she still has some feathers coming in.

I have now taken my "fat mommy" inside. She is barely walking and has lots of Poo clumped up on her bum feathers. I know some have said to cut them but aren't there Blood feathers back there? How do you tell? I made her an egg tonight with some of the wormer in it and she is just sitting on the ground, doesn't make a sound. I feel terrible for her. I will nurse her for next week and give her a bath tomorrow to try and relieve her a bit. Also her cone is pretty pale and fallen over and she looks really puffy (but she has always been kinds of fat). Her eyes look fine but her poo is really liquid with a little green in it.

Any other advice anyone has is greatly appreciated!
 
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I have an older pair of chickens as well and they were shaking from the cold temps a few weeks ago and doing the same thing with their feet. I placed them in an empty brooder pen under a heat lamp. They love it! I opened it up the other day to let them out for a while. Well, then hen jumped out for all of 15 seconds and jumped right back in and just seemed much happier there.

Another thing--did you check her for mites? I dust mine in Sevin dust every couple months to make sure they stay mite free.
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Good luck!
 
My chicken walked like you are describing--lifting legs high and brushing her chest with them before putting them down-- when she had an impacted crop. Is her crop impacted? or does it feel like a water balloon? When you massage the crop, do you smell a foul smell?Which antibiotics are you giving her? Could she have eaten some feathers during the molt?

I found that when I gave my girl a friend in her hospital, she perked up. Mine liked a gentle heat lamp over her cage (night-time bulb so she could sleep), and a rather dark quiet environment. I also used baby bird food for parrots that you feed with a syringe made for that purpose and you place it at the line of the beak opening and let them drink it. I gave mine pedialite, and she improved, but there are also recipes for home-made electrolite solutions.

Are the girls not walking because they can't balance, or because they are weak? Maybe it's time to take a poop sample to a vet.
 
Thanks to all of you for your advice. I brought my little one back in after only the 1 night outside in the coop when I saw her in the morning she was standing outside shivering so I went and brought her back in. The biggest problem then came whe she say my "fat mommy" and attacked her inside, took a chunk out of her comb. I screamed and grabed the little one and had to move her away. I felt so terrible as fat mommy did nothing (being so weak) but put her head down then went and hide in a corner- I just cried petting her.

I gave Fat mommy a bath last night. I looked all over her and nothing is wrong I saw- no mites, not hot areas, eyes are bright but I can feel the breast bone but not sure she is skinny though. I think she really enjoyed the bath-didn't fight me at all but I think she is too weak to care. She ate a little yesterday but today nothing-she won't touch anything nor drink and her poo is all white liquid. I've tried everything and she won't eat just lays there and sleeps.

I am planning on taking her to the vet on Monday. It will cost me $100 (I really don't have the money but hate to see her suffer and probably starve to death soon if I don't) I really don't think she is doing well and not sure she'll make it to Monday at this rate.
 
Hello everyone, I have not written an update as I had a rough couple days, my aunt passed away suddenly and I had to leave to go back home. My husband stayed behind and let me know shortly after I left "Fat Mommy" took her last breath. It's not been easy. I fel I tried to give her the most relaxing last couple days and was planning to take her to the Vet Monday as she stopped eating and drinking, but she didn't make it.

On a good news note, my little one is doing GREAT the only problem is that she is still int he sunroom, warm temps, not one picking at her and she needs to go back outside-

*** ANY SUGGESTIONS ? How do I reintroduce her without them killing her and how about the temps here as she is used to 68 not 48 ? I am now even more worried about her as I know they will be mean! THere isn't a way to keep her near them and sectioned off at all. I thought possibly when I let them out an hour to free range before bed?
 

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