Ayla_noemi
Chirping
I have searched the internet as well as this site high and low for anything resembling this issue and found these old posts. Basically I’m looking for comments, opinions and/or suggestions.
OP posted this in 2013
Only reply posted in 2015
So here’s my situation.
So I had a Pilgrim gosling hatch that matched the physical deformities described by BuckleberryFern to the letter. This is the first bird of any species or breed that I have ever seen like this and the parent stock are my own. We incubate all our own eggs in Cabinet incubator.
So here’s our normal procedure.
1) Set eggs with air cell up for up to 6 days (eggs get set every Sunday).
2) spray eggs and tray with peroxide on day of hatch
3) spray eggs and tray with water after approx 2 minutes
4) place eggs on their side in incubator with aircell somewhat elevated (just eyeballed)
5) incubator remains on auto turner during entire time (because we set small quantities every Sunday from multiple species.
6) temp 100 degrees and humidity approx 60%
7) eggs are not removed from incubator until day 15 (give or take) at which point they are candled misted with water and placed back in incubator. (Usually takes 5-10 minutes)
every morning and night we look through the incubator window to see if any of the eggs have laid flat, if so we quickly fix it
9) anytime incubator is opened eggs get quick misting
10) eggs are removed from incubator candled and misted weekly (at this point duds are tossed)
~~~~~~~NORMALLY at peep~~~~~~
q-tip used to clear nostrils if needed, eggs are misted and placed in paper towel lined box at bottom of incubator. (Usually takes 2-3 days for gosling to fully exit egg and be ready to leave incubator
~~~~~~this gosling aka Goosy~~~~~
1) noticed air cell on side of egg around day 21(second time this has ever happened the first time gosling hatched without issue and is alive and well)
2) Saturday AM day 1: 1st gosling in batch to peep (all well so far)
3)Sunday AM day 2: all other goslings are ready to leave incubator except Goosy. inner membrane is drying on Goosy so we open egg some in order to remove dried up membrane.
4) Sunday PM day 2: Goosy has not progressed but seems fine otherwise. More membrane moistened and cleaned away. Immediately notice prominent blood vessels still attached to inner shell with a circumference of a Snapple cap. Also notice egg yolk about the size of a Small chicken egg protruding from goslings umbilicus. moistened gosling and placed back in cardboard box inside incubator
6)Monday AM day 3: egg yolk has reduced to size of large marble and blood vessels have dried. Left Goosy in incubator.
7) Monday PM day 3: completely out of egg, yolk has been absorbed but umbilicus still protrudes. Brought Goosy in the house for closer observation.
8) Tuesday AM day 4: Goosy’s head is no longer deformed. She reacts to visual and auditory stimulus but only communicates with clicking sound (no voice) also shows no interest in food or water.
9) Tuesday PM day 4: Goosy can be heard making almost inaudible chirps occasionally, still refuses water and food.
10) Wednesday AM day 5: after no water or food I start dipping Goosy’s bill in water every 20 sec or so 3-4x at random times throughout. Eventually I start putting wet food in her bill and she shakes it out like it doesn’t belong. I notice her neck is abnormally thick at the base of her skull as if from inflammation of the muscles.
11) Noon day 6 Goosy’s Brother is brought inside to see if Goosy can learn or benefit from the company of a hatch mate. Goosy was fed 3cc squishy food with brewers yeast directly into gizzard. Goosy still does not stand, walk, eat, drink or chirp as expected and her unbilicus is not fully healed. Goosy weighs way less than her brother. Will add pictures this afternoon. Any thoughts on what could of caused this, what “it” is or what can be done for her? I think her chances of getting better are slim to none but it’s worth a try.
OP posted this in 2013
Only reply posted in 2015
So here’s my situation.
So I had a Pilgrim gosling hatch that matched the physical deformities described by BuckleberryFern to the letter. This is the first bird of any species or breed that I have ever seen like this and the parent stock are my own. We incubate all our own eggs in Cabinet incubator.
So here’s our normal procedure.
1) Set eggs with air cell up for up to 6 days (eggs get set every Sunday).
2) spray eggs and tray with peroxide on day of hatch
3) spray eggs and tray with water after approx 2 minutes
4) place eggs on their side in incubator with aircell somewhat elevated (just eyeballed)
5) incubator remains on auto turner during entire time (because we set small quantities every Sunday from multiple species.
6) temp 100 degrees and humidity approx 60%
7) eggs are not removed from incubator until day 15 (give or take) at which point they are candled misted with water and placed back in incubator. (Usually takes 5-10 minutes)
every morning and night we look through the incubator window to see if any of the eggs have laid flat, if so we quickly fix it
9) anytime incubator is opened eggs get quick misting
10) eggs are removed from incubator candled and misted weekly (at this point duds are tossed)
~~~~~~~NORMALLY at peep~~~~~~
q-tip used to clear nostrils if needed, eggs are misted and placed in paper towel lined box at bottom of incubator. (Usually takes 2-3 days for gosling to fully exit egg and be ready to leave incubator
~~~~~~this gosling aka Goosy~~~~~
1) noticed air cell on side of egg around day 21(second time this has ever happened the first time gosling hatched without issue and is alive and well)
2) Saturday AM day 1: 1st gosling in batch to peep (all well so far)
3)Sunday AM day 2: all other goslings are ready to leave incubator except Goosy. inner membrane is drying on Goosy so we open egg some in order to remove dried up membrane.
4) Sunday PM day 2: Goosy has not progressed but seems fine otherwise. More membrane moistened and cleaned away. Immediately notice prominent blood vessels still attached to inner shell with a circumference of a Snapple cap. Also notice egg yolk about the size of a Small chicken egg protruding from goslings umbilicus. moistened gosling and placed back in cardboard box inside incubator
6)Monday AM day 3: egg yolk has reduced to size of large marble and blood vessels have dried. Left Goosy in incubator.
7) Monday PM day 3: completely out of egg, yolk has been absorbed but umbilicus still protrudes. Brought Goosy in the house for closer observation.
8) Tuesday AM day 4: Goosy’s head is no longer deformed. She reacts to visual and auditory stimulus but only communicates with clicking sound (no voice) also shows no interest in food or water.
9) Tuesday PM day 4: Goosy can be heard making almost inaudible chirps occasionally, still refuses water and food.
10) Wednesday AM day 5: after no water or food I start dipping Goosy’s bill in water every 20 sec or so 3-4x at random times throughout. Eventually I start putting wet food in her bill and she shakes it out like it doesn’t belong. I notice her neck is abnormally thick at the base of her skull as if from inflammation of the muscles.
11) Noon day 6 Goosy’s Brother is brought inside to see if Goosy can learn or benefit from the company of a hatch mate. Goosy was fed 3cc squishy food with brewers yeast directly into gizzard. Goosy still does not stand, walk, eat, drink or chirp as expected and her unbilicus is not fully healed. Goosy weighs way less than her brother. Will add pictures this afternoon. Any thoughts on what could of caused this, what “it” is or what can be done for her? I think her chances of getting better are slim to none but it’s worth a try.
