Help! Detached Cells & Porous Eggs!

[MissBroodyHen]

Hi. I'm desperately wanting to set my new eggs in. I've bought 12 from EBay of a mixed variety and a load of them have detached cells. I have a load of my own mut eggs to set as well. But the eBay ones have big air cells already and air cells that are floating and a couple of very porous. I had them stored all at around 50 degrees for a few days. But they would have been damaged in transport and must be a little old.
Is there any chance of the porous ones or are they going to cause fataly problems early on?

I have a cheap incubator it holds 60 eggs and its in an octagonal shape. Has a fan as well.
I wanted to incubate as dry as I can. But the most humidity I have in the room is 30%. What humidity level should I set the bator at? I'm setting temps at 99.5
The bator has a large flat plastic surface
There is room to put egg cartons in. Should I use these for incubating?

I just incubated my first batch of eggs and lost all of them in the end. To various reasons.
Although a lot seem to have been porous I had a lot of problems with red ring early on. Then later on it seem to be the just stopped at various stages and these were rather porous from the start.
So any advice please while I'm setting up?? Would be greatful.
I can upload pics of the damaged ones ect..if any want needs to see them. Thanks in advance.

 

[missnu01]

I am on my first hatch now so can't be of too much help...I've read a lot though. Porous eggs are much more likely to succumb to bacterial blood rings, as they allow too much into and out of the eggs. If unincubated eggs already have large air cells then it is very likely they are old and were improperly stored. The air cell gets larger as the liquid in the egg dries out. Whether due to time in a dry area or because a chick is using the resources... So, I guess you could try them And just see, but it doesn't sound too good

 

[Impress]

I would just set them and candle them regularly. Since the incubator is an octagon shape, can you just turn the whole unit to turn the eggs? (Like a Brinsea?) if so egg cartons sound fabulous, just use the papery ones and cut holes in the bottom of the egg cups to let air circulate.

 

[MissBroodyHen]

I would just set them and candle them regularly. Since the incubator is an octagon shape, can you just turn the whole unit to turn the eggs? (Like a Brinsea?) if so egg cartons sound fabulous, just use the papery ones and cut holes in the bottom of the egg cups to let air circulate.

Well I could turn the whole unit. As it is totally manual. Would it be an idea to just do this with all the eggs then as I would like the best chance I can with them.
What about humidity. Really don't know what to set this at as there is so much differences. My air at home is very dry. At about 30-35% but I was thinking of moving my incubator to a slightly warmer room and the air maybe a little more humid. I want to try as try as poss so do you think I should try about 40%?

 

[MissBroodyHen]

I am on my first hatch now so can't be of too much help...I've read a lot though. Porous eggs are much more likely to succumb to bacterial blood rings, as they allow too much into and out of the eggs. If unincubated eggs already have large air cells then it is very likely they are old and were improperly stored. The air cell gets larger as the liquid in the egg dries out. Whether due to time in a dry area or because a chick is using the resources... So, I guess you could try them And just see, but it doesn't sound too good

Yes I know about this too as I've read a lot as well. What I want to know is does it mean they will defo die or is this just a very poor chance. If so ill discard them now.

 

[MissBroodyHen]

Ok strangely. I've just re candled. And the one porous egg that's really bad has the completely detached Cell
So I'm going to not put it in.
Is there anyway they can re attach because I can't see anymore detached. I swear there must have been at least 4 and now nothing. They look perfect. I had stored them straight away at 50 f so this is beyond me. So I'm going to just go ahead and get them going in the egg cartons anyways just in case just getting them to warm up to room temp at the minute. Does anyone know what a green egg breed would be because I got one of those!
Also I have noted that one of the eBay eggs now has a time crack at the fat end. Anyone think if I tape it if this would work? Or atleast attempt the shell is very think. But it as a hairline split. I don't remember seeing this when I first got them in but it could have been there already.