stubborn stubborn. well I gave as much advice as I could LOL
I think I just have that luck with animals in general. I somehow end up with the headstrong personalities that no one else would want to deal with LOL Makes for a great show dog though!
Thanks for your advice--I think I am just going to have to come to the realization that they only contribute in their willingness to mother--which isnt such a bad thing in the bigger picture, I guess.
They are determined.
