Hen has liquid diarrhea, she's been wormed, treated with Corid, etc.

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We have a very small backyard flock, 4 hens. We had 5 but our more senior EE just passed away just after Christmas after a long bout of the same symptoms our RIR now is exhibiting. I noticed a little blood in the diarrhea with the EE weeks ago and read several posts that indicated it might be Cocci so I bought Corid and followed the directions and treated the entire flock. The EE (Penny) didn't respond at all and both she and our RIR (Dotti) continued to exhibit the same symptoms, somewhat lethargic and both had bad diarrhea. The loose poop started about 8 weeks ago and I initially wormed all the girls with Safeguard (fenbendazole) and followed that up with a second worming 12 days later (since they were all molting I didn't need to worry about egg withdrawal since none of them were laying). This did nothing for Penny's & Dottie's diarrhea. Just before Christmas I treated the entire flock with Corid for 5 days, but Penny passed away two days after Christmas and Dottie showed no improvement in terms of her diarrhea. I immediately followed the Corid treatment with ACV water, probiotics (ProBios), vitamins (NutriDrench) and Dotti's diarrhea doesn't have blood in it anymore, but her poops are still completely liquid. The other 3 girls appear to be completely fine with healthy, normal poops. Both "sick" hens continued to eat despite their declining health, but Penny became weaker and weaker and sadly passed two days after Christmas. I had separated her from the flock about a week before she passed. Dotti (RIR) seems to be going down the same path and I am at a complete loss as to what the heck this could be? Dotti eats and scratches around the yard (our flock free-ranges during the day), but definitely does not have the energy the other birds have and seems to be declining very slowly just as Penny did. If anyone has any idea what the heck we might be dealing with I'm all ears. I don't want to lose my entire flock. :( They have clear eyes, no mucus or drainage, both were breathing normal. Dotti has mucky butt, which I have been washing off every other day and applying Vetericyn to her bum to keep it clear. One post indicated a possible yeast infection so that's why I began adding ACV and probiotics and vitamins to their water/pellets. The coop and run are cleaned thoroughly every day, they have fresh clean water at all times. I'm mystified as to what is going on?? Even though Dottie is past laying age (she stopped laying about a year ago) I don't want her to suffer and die slowly as Penny did and I most certainly don't want whatever she and Penny have to spread. Please help! We have fed our flock the same high grade layer feed (19% protein) for the past year. They don't get food scraps, but they do get a breakfast bowl of oats, organic sunflower seeds, black fly larvae and mixed grains to which I add the probiotics and vitamins.
 
Cocci are protozoa. There are about 9 types of cocci that can infect chickens. Corid will treat most of them, but there are a couple types that are bacterial in nature in that corid is ineffective in treating.
You'll need to purchase a sulfa drug to kill the bacterial type cocci. Sulfadimethoxine or sulmet mixed in water will treat it. Both these drugs used to be available over the counter but now require script from a vet. Here's a link:
https://www.revivalanimal.com/product/albon-solution-injectable-and-powder?sku=80203-192
 
Cocci are protozoa. There are about 9 types of cocci that can infect chickens. Corid will treat most of them, but there are a couple types that are bacterial in nature in that corid is ineffective in treating.
You'll need to purchase a sulfa drug to kill the bacterial type cocci. Sulfadimethoxine or sulmet mixed in water will treat it. Both these drugs used to be available over the counter but now require script from a vet. Here's a link:
https://www.revivalanimal.com/product/albon-solution-injectable-and-powder?sku=80203-192
Thank you, thank you! I will call our animal vet in the morning and get a scrip asap!
 
This is very interesting. I have been following every post about chickens with diarrhea and losing weight because my Barred rock has been this way for several weeks if not months. Thanks for your story and thanks to Rusty for the info on the medications.
 
Can you post some info about “bacterial” coccidia Rusty Rooster? Coccidia are protozoans, there are 9 or more strains that affect chickens, and some may be resistant to certain drugs. Sulfa may be more effective if coccidia are resistant to Corid. There is also toltrazuril, which is used in some countries. Getting a fecal float locally by a vet might help to ID what is going on. I’m not sure about coccidia being bacterial, and would like to see some literature or links.
 
Can you post some info about “bacterial” coccidia Rusty Rooster? Coccidia are protozoans, there are 9 or more strains that affect chickens, and some may be resistant to certain drugs. Sulfa may be more effective if coccidia are resistant to Corid. There is also toltrazuril, which is used in some countries. Getting a fecal float locally by a vet might help to ID what is going on. I’m not sure about coccidia being bacterial, and would like to see some literature or links.

Here you go Eggcessive, trust me:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/2/Coccidiosis Management/46/drugs/
 
I read the article, and saw nothing about coccidia being “bacterial in nature.” That was what I was confused about. I am aware that sulfa antibiotics will treat certain bacteria, as well as coccidia protozoa. Not nit-picking, just was confused. We all can learn from others here on the forum.
Anyway your info on treatments is good. Welcome to BYC, Rusty Rooster MAC, it is great you are helping on the emergency thread.
 
Bacterial in nature is a figure of speech. It simply means that the protozoa infect similarly like bacteria. Therefore it must be treated as such with sulfa drugs. Metronidazole works in the same manner, against a different type of protozoa acting like a bacterial infection.
Certain cocci do not respond to amprolium treatment. I suspect the OP is dealing with a different strain which is treatable with sulfa drugs.
As you know, sulfa drugs are used as antibiotics in humans.
Eggcessive, I already know that you know all this stuff lol. :D
 

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