How much food

I know with layers you can feed all day but general rule of thumb is 1/3 lb of feed per bird per day. Then check food. Some days they might leave some. Other days they might leave some. But you learn what they need. You not gonna kill anyone if you stick to rule of thumb. Some just might go to bed a little hungry till you find out what’s good for your flock. Mine eat less feed but forage more. Meat birds are different. They feed all day for 12 hours. Water is must all day long. A lot of info I got for feed and rationing is from Joel Salatin. He has done a lot for farmers.
 
They love the fermented food. Just didn't know how I would make that available all day long!

Fermented feed wouldn’t be left out all day. It molds super quick. What keeps it from molding in you container is the liquid above the feed. Rule of thumb is put out what can be eaten in 30minutes. In the morning. I personally don’t mind put out enough that last an hour. I throw out what last more than 4 hours. But that’s personal preference. Stick to 30 minutes and you’ll do fine.
 
What keeps it from molding in you container is the liquid above the feed.

This is not true. Water will not stop things from going mouldy (I've had bad batches of wine and beer grow mould on the surface). Many of us ferment with a 50:50 ratio, meaning there is no water layer, just mushy feed.
 
What is fermented food? I am new to chickens and not familiar!
Fermented feed is any feed covered in water that’s typically nonchlorinated. Over the coarse of 36-48 hours it fermintes. The same way your cucumbers do in vinegar. It adds vitamins and nutrients that aren’t naturally found in the feed. Kind of like fermintes rice. The benefits: the feed it pre moistened and prebroke down. Meaning the chicken get more nutrients because it wastes less. Chickens will also typically eat about 1/3 less feed due to this. There are other benefits. But google it. It’s interesting
 
This is not true. Water will not stop things from going mouldy (I've had bad batches of wine and beer grow mould on the surface). Many of us ferment with a 50:50 ratio, meaning there is no water layer, just mushy feed.
Have you studied the process. I think you would be surprised. Not to be contradictory, but everything I’ve studied over the past year is different. I googled it and the first 3 sites said what keeps it from souring too much is due to submersion in lactic acid. None of the fermented feeds I’ve seen for chicken feed shows 50:50. They all say it needs to be 1/3 or jar filled and a 1 in layer of water on top.
Most brewers will tell you to bump the beer or wine if there is mold. Good way to get sick. It means the fermination has stuck and alcohol hasn’t killed off bateria aenobolically. Unless it’s Krausen, which is different
 
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Have you studied the process. I think you would be surprised. Not to be contradictory, but everything I’ve studied over the past year is different. I googled it and the first 3 sites said what keeps it from souring too much is due to submersion in lactic acid.

If you Google DE and ACV you'll find the top hits all say these are magical items that cure all ills. That doesn't mean that's true.

Yes, I have studied the process (I loooove Google Scholar). Water does not stop microorganisms from moving through it. Otherwise you would never ferment anything using the 3 inches of water method; you'd simply get no "good" bacteria getting into your ferment. Plus we'd have never had to come up with fridges if water was such a great barrier to bacteria. We'd just keep everything submerged in water.

Add to that that it needs stirring, completely negating any supposed barrier effect of the water.

Air locks on demi jons work because the passage is small and there is always movement upwards (the co2 may also play a part). Not simply because there is a barrier of water.

Souring is due to the lactic acid. This is produced by the "good" bacteria that you are trying to promote. These feed off sugars and alcohol. The "bad" bacteria, and yeasts, feed off sugars and in the case of yeasts produce alcohol. What prevents the bad stuff from growing is not the water, and not the lactic acid (although that is a contributing factor), it is the "good" bacteria chomping up all the food AND the waste products of the yeasts. The bad bacteria just can't keep up when they're actually making a food source for their competitors.

If you have a lot of water you've actually watered down the lactic acid, so any antibac qualities it has are reduced. Not just that, but some bacteria thrive better in slightly acid conditions as opposed to neutral (rare ones, but they do exist).

None of the fermented feeds I’ve seen for chicken feed shows 50:50. They all say it needs to be 1/3 or jar filled and a 1 in layer of water on top.

Then can I recommend TikiJane's article? It's a great cover all and I know I'm not the only one to have moved to her method.
https://tikktok.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/fermented-feed-faq/

Most brewers will tell you to bump the beer or wine if there is mold. Good way to get sick. It means the fermination has stuck and alcohol hasn’t killed off bateria aenobolically. Unless it’s Krausen, which is different

I would think ALL brewers would tell you to dump mouldy beer and wine. It tastes baaaaad ;)

I highly rec the 50:50 method. It is way less messy and time consuming, and works just as well.

Though I can't say I agree with TikiJane's conclusions re chlorinated water. When I was letting the chlorine evaporate from my water I ended up with FF that had a good whiff of alcohol about it. I researched chlorine and found yeasts are more susceptible to chlorine than most bacteria, particularly good ol lactobacillus. So tap water might hurt the good bacteria a little, but it kicks yeasts hard. I ferment overnight, with tap water, in the 50:50 method using backwash, and it works great. It gets nice and bubbly, has a good sour smell to it, and my girls love it.
 
So tap water might hurt the good bacteria a little, but it kicks yeasts hard. I ferment overnight, with tap water, in the 50:50 method using backwash, and it works great. It gets nice and bubbly, has a good sour smell to it, and my girls love it.
I like the backwash method. I’ve done it a while. I like the results.
 

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