Integrating new birds - HELP NEEDED PLEASE

tulie13

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OK, I posted a few days ago on my RIR roos that I got instead of hens. I got 8 pullet chicks that turned out to be 8 roo chicks.

The hatchery guy offered to trade me 8 RIR pullets about 2 months old for my 8 roos that are 3 months old. I told him I couldn't do it because I have nowhere to quarantine 8 two-month-old birds for a month, because they are too big to fit in my bathtub (which is where my chicks were raised for their first month of life (which was also effectively a one-month quarantine).

I was also somewhat concerned about the fact that he treats his birds with antibiotics on a regular basis, and if I took his "treated" birds with the possibility of some resistant bacteria developing, and put them in with my "untreated" birds, I might infect MY flock with something that isn't even showing up in HIS flock (because he continually medicates).

He even mentioned that "birds can catch CRV, if you've never had it you haven't messed with chickens". I admitted that I surely hadn't, and the first chickens that I got were just this March. So I haven't had CRV or any disease in my flock.

I need some serious, fast advice on what I can/should do here:

He understands my need for quarantine and has come up with a potential solution! He offered to bring over one of HIS portable cages (because I don't have one) and put it on MY property with the pullets!
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I would certainly have to keep them some distance from my other birds, wouldn't I? And I would want to start them on probiotics to re-establish their guts, etc. So I have a multiple-pronged question here:

1) IF I take these pullets, and quarantine on my property for a month, and everyone SEEMS OK, could I still be passing CRV into my flock? (Note above - he mentioned that he had outbreaks of it in his flock before, but he claims that "everyone has".) And if so, is it something to really worry about, since "wild birds" pooping into my chicken run could also pass something like this? Is it one of those "you're gonna get it in your flock eventually so don't worry too much about it, just try to keep your chickens healthy and you shouldn't have an outbreak"?

2) Is it a bad idea to take birds that are managed with regular antibiotics for the first part of their lives and then take them off them and try to manage them without antiobiotics? Are their immune systems likely to recover OK? Or will they potentially be "low thriving" birds? Will they be more prone to get sick themselves? (forget passing something to my other birds, just asking about THESE birds)

3) IF we go this route, for a "proper quarantine" how far do these gals need to be from my birds? I would make sure they are "downhill" so no feces wash into my coop from severe rainstorms. But what about airborne problems? What is the "minimum safe distance"?

I'd really appreciate some feedback on this, soon if possible - my 8 roos are starting to fight, and I'm going to have a bloodbath on my hands soon.
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THANKS in advance for your help!
 
That sounds very nice what he is doing! That says alot about him and how he wants to make you happy.

I would say go for it! Just put them down the hill and wait a month. They are getting treatment so they should be OK. Use medicated feed and see how it goes~

Your worring to much! These things happen and wild birds can give you it. Just take the birds, make a mendz and get some hens girl~
Oh and get rid of 7 roo's!!!! get them processed for food or give them away or have them take them back!!!! one roo would be nice for your girls and you can still eat the eggs, possibly get some chicks, maybe sell them to make some $$ or sell the eggs for $$.
Best of luck
 
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What I guy! That is really nice of him.

Take the pullets and quarantine them for a month to 6 weeks as far away from your birds as you can. If they are healthy in 6 weeks integrate them into your flock. If you can keep a roo where you live, I would. That way you can make your own chicks.
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Minimum safe distance? And everyone think no biggie on getting "medicated" birds adjusted to "un-medicated" conditions with some probiotics?
 
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Bump for response - I'm hoping he'll come tomorrow to do the trade-out, and I need to know for sure on the distance and whether this is OK to do at all... THANKS!
 
Ok, dear. I think the answer to question #1 is "as far as (reasonably) possible" and question #2 is "no, it will probably not be any big deal, just give them some probiotics".

Since you are working with live animals there are so often grey areas and it is very difficult to give absolute answers.

Just out of curiosity, when you were working were you an engineer?
 
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Thanks for the feedback - and I was not an engineer, but I do have a degree in Chemistry. Are you asking because of my "minimum safe distance" question? That's from the movie "Aliens"...
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