Interesting Coturnix Color crossing findings

[monarc23]

Least they're interesting to me

So I finnally marked my eggs for myself, and the eggs that are marked are finnally hatching today.

And get this...

from my rosetta pen, so far, 2 golden chicks! Yes, that's what im saying one of my rosetta hens over my rosetta roo and so far out of the rosetta eggs that have hatched, I got 2 golden chicks instead of rosettas. Interesting! What is more odd, is that if you cross a rosetta to a golden you more often than not get rosetta (or another tibetan patternd chick) rather than a golden. So with that said, it looks like even though Tibetan patterened birds (like rostta) trump out the color of golden, the resulting chicks, evne though not golden can carry the golden gene, and pop up in crossing the tibetan patterened birds together!

So now I have normal sized goldens that I don't need LOL. Though this does give me an idea of how to produce jumbo rosettas!!!

And this is a given but it still suprised me... tux to tux gives you the chance of A & Ms and now I have proof of this, pretty puffy pure white birds with a few small spots of dark tibetan on their heads and or beaks

. I guess youcould consider them a washed out tuxedo

So this makes me happy as i hate having a pen of A & Ms, they atleast in my experience are poor layers, and eat their eggs more often than not. So knowing now that i dont need A & Ms to produce A & Ms is wonderful! Now i can get enough A & M roos i need for my tuxedo breeding pens from the tuxedos themselves

 

[shelleyd2008]

I figured the tux-tux thing out a while back, when people that were getting some of my tux-tux breedings eggs, and hatching tux, tibetans, and A&Ms! And the rosetta thing makes perfect sense. Just like the A&M thing that was discussed yesterday, the genes have to go somewhere!

Anything crossed would carry 2 color genes, it just depends on how those genes match up in the breeding as to what color the chicks are. Just think of the recessive gene as the small 'x' and dominant as big 'X'. If you cross a pure rosetta to a pure golden, every chick would be Xx for color. So cross those chicks back together, and the results would be: 50% XX, 25% Xx, and 25% xx. So it is totally possible, just more probable that the resulting chick would look like the dominant color. Does that make sense?

It's odd that your A&M don't lay well, I get at least 4 eggs a day from my 5 girls, and more times than not I have 5 eggs. I need to work on getting the A&Ms bigger, their eggs are huge, but my tuxedos are bigger than my A&M are.

 

[monarc23]

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well I dont have that issue anymore LOL I culled out all those A & M hens, I now only have A & M roos for my breeding projects. A & M roos that have spots of color I pen them accordingly. LIke I have a large A & M roo who has golden spots...he's in my golden pen for new blood as his resulting offspring will be golden ofcourse carrying A & M, and I have another large A & M roo who's carrying brown in my red pen to see if that expresses the red im trying hard to get

They layed well btw, the issue was they ate them. My only pen that ever did oddly enough....i hear it a lot though from others who have them, them eating their eggs and what not...so if you dont ahve that issue you're a lucky duck

 

[JJMR794]

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MAYBE INSTEAD OF A&M'S THEY ARE DINNER TUXEDOS....

 

[saddina]

Would you like me to section off the eggs you marked "red" before they hatch so you can see what they come out as?

 

[monarc23]

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if you're curious sure, but if not nah no biggie

I'll more than likely be able to ID the chicks from that batch if they aren't red tuxedos they'll more than likely be rosetta tuxedos with a very nice marking of red. Im still getting only these nicely marked rosetta tuxedos it's getting on my nerves...i mean they are GORGEOUS and now I'mg oing to be doing a pen of those, and im sure they are carrying the red gene for me, so by breeding offspring ot offspring i Should get the red to express but it's just frusterating I wanted red! *stamps foot* LOL! This crossing is the only way that I have gotten such nicely marked rosetta tuxedos so that's why i say I'll be able to ID them by picture

I just need to keep crossing through different roos until I get a roo that expresses the color while I wait for more reds to come in teh mail

Oh and one odd thing about the goldens from the rosetta pen, they have shorter down! Interesting!!! LOL I will take pictures later after I get my stupid new wafer adjusted to the incubator temp

 

[monarc23]

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MAYBE INSTEAD OF A&M'S THEY ARE DINNER TUXEDOS....

haha maybe! The thing is though they are HUGE chicks....I am pretty sure they are jumbos, which I find odd, since my tuxedos, they are meaty, but they are definatly not jumbos... so that's another finding... crossing two tux together that give you A & M may also be expressing their hidden jumbo gene! Soo with that said may just have to breed these A & MS (got three from the tuxedos i think it's up to now) back and see if that will give me larger....perferably jumbo tuxedos as who wouldnt want that!?!?!

 

[alanb]

NIKI ; Did you receive the last E-mail I sent from ([email protected]) ... Please return answer , thankyou .... ALANB .

 

[monarc23]

ALAN B . :

NIKI ; Did you receive the last E-mail I sent from ([email protected]) ... Please return answer , thankyou .... ALANB .

Hi Alan,
no please send it again, I dont see it in my BYC pms or in my email it may have gotten caught up in my spam mail so yes please send it again