Jinxed again....egg tray not a good investment?

[happyhens1972]

Well, I seem to have jinxed this hatch altogether. Having never had any issues at all with my wonderful R Com 20 Max, now I am stressed to heck!

I mentioned on another post that I get amazing hatches in my 'lock,load and leave it alone' R Com and now I'm getting nothing but trouble. First I get a power cut (not the bator's fault of course but still....) and now I find that, so far, four of my fourteen eggs have pipped today, day 19, and out of those, three have pipped at the wrong end of their eggs!

Do you think this might be due to the egg tray I used for the first time for this hatch? It's the proper R Com one, made for this machine. It holds the eggs in their position while the floor of the bator moves to turn them.....

In all prior hatches, I have used the bars that come with the machine, which allow the eggs to jiggle around and settle as they will, after turning....

But then I thought chicks oriented themselves after you turned the turner off (and removed the tray!) on day 18???

Is there any genetic or parent-stock dietary link to malpositioning?

I'm baffled.....any ideas?

I have seen movement and heard peeping from all three malpositioned chicks, by the way, so the only interference they have had at this stage is clearing the pip holes of membrane to ensure a clear air passage. I'm now desperately hoping they will still be able to hatch themselves out unassisted.

 

[Laodicia]

Well, I seem to have jinxed this hatch altogether. Having never had any issues at all with my wonderful R Com 20 Max, now I am stressed to heck!

I mentioned on another post that I get amazing hatches in my 'lock,load and leave it alone' R Com and now I'm getting nothing but trouble. First I get a power cut (not the bator's fault of course but still....) and now I find that, so far, four of my fourteen eggs have pipped today, day 19, and out of those, three have pipped at the wrong end of their eggs!

Do you think this might be due to the egg tray I used for the first time for this hatch? It's the proper R Com one, made for this machine. It holds the eggs in their position while the floor of the bator moves to turn them.....

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In all prior hatches, I have used the bars that come with the machine, which allow the eggs to jiggle around and settle as they will, after turning....

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But then I thought chicks oriented themselves after you turned the turner off (and removed the tray!) on day 18???

Is there any genetic or parent-stock dietary link to malpositioning?

I'm baffled.....any ideas?

I have seen movement and heard peeping from all three malpositioned chicks, by the way, so the only interference they have had at this stage is clearing the pip holes of membrane to ensure a clear air passage. I'm now desperately hoping they will still be able to hatch themselves out unassisted.

I read your other thread already at least it seems like the power outage didnt hurt them

Seeing as how theyre early its possible they just didnt have the time to repossition usually they would have 3 - 4 days and the early ones have only had 1.

It is possible for possition to be genetic as well. At least i know ive read that somewhere im not sure if its true though.

Give them a chance to get out on their own 48 hours instead of the usual 24.

 

[rita2paul]

i have that incubator and i was thinking on the same line as you and nearly bought the egg holder, but i have had some really good hatches with just the bars so i never bought one. i hope they will be ok.

 

[happyhens1972]

I read your other thread already at least it seems like the power outage didnt hurt them

Seeing as how theyre early its possible they just didnt have the time to repossition usually they would have 3 - 4 days and the early ones have only had 1.

It is possible for possition to be genetic as well. At least i know ive read that somewhere im not sure if its true though.

Give them a chance to get out on their own 48 hours instead of the usual 24.

Thanks for your input and yes, sorry if it seems I've double posted but the other thread was more about the eggs, whereas this one is more about questioning the cause.....especially the tray.

You say to leave for 48 hours instead of 24....I assume that is to allow them to reach their natural hatching time and give them enough time to absorb yolk and contract veins....or is it that malpositions take longer to get out?

 

[Laodicia]

Thanks for your input and yes, sorry if it seems I've double posted but the other thread was more about the eggs, whereas this one is more about questioning the cause.....especially the tray.

You say to leave for 48 hours instead of 24....I assume that is to allow them to reach their natural hatching time and give them enough time to absorb yolk and contract veins....or is it that malpositions take longer to get out?

Oh, i wasnt complaining. I just hadnt posted on that thread even though i had read it. Im not sure it was the tray but its possible.

The extra time is because they pipped straight to the shell. Usually it would be approximately 24 hours after internal pip before external pip. But the malpossitioned ones wouldnt have used their aircell.

If you get to the point of wanting to assist after 48 hours. I might be able to give some pointers. Theres always the possibilty that mal possitions wont absorb all of the yolk because of how theyre jammed in there. I havent been able to keep any chick with external yolks alive.