Lavender vs. Blue

[Iluveggers]

Do both Lavender and Blue work the same when crossed?

Example: Lavender roo x Blue hen
Lavender roo x Black hen

Or are there different generics charts? I have the BBS chart saved to my computer so I know how they play together.

Thank you!

 

[I Like Turkeys]

Different charts: Lavender(self blue) is I believe autosomal recessive? It’s recessive though, so two genes are needed for it to show.
lavender x black would produce 100% black, split for lavender.
Lavender x blue would make 50% blue 50% black, as blue is dominant, but all would carry lavender.

 

[Iluveggers]

Different charts: Lavender(self blue) is I believe autosomal recessive? It’s recessive though, so two genes are needed for it to show.
lavender x black would produce 100% black, split for lavender.
Lavender x blue would make 50% blue 50% black, as blue is dominant, but all would carry lavender.

How does the carrying lavender work? Now I am really confused!

 

[I Like Turkeys]

How does the carrying lavender work? Now I am really confused!

They hold 1 of two alleles needed for the gene to show, so can potentially make lavender babies.

If you bred two “carrying lavender” birds together there should be a 25% chance of lavender chicks, and if bred to a lavender-showing bird, a 50% chance of lavenders.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

How does the carrying lavender work? Now I am really confused!

They have one gene for it, and can pass that one gene on, but without a second gene, it's pretty much just a black gene

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

Yes, neither is sexlinked, so it does not matter which color is male or female. Lavender is recessive, so it will not show up on the first generation cross to a non-lavender bird that is not carrying the gene, either. So the Lavender bird works essentially like a Black bird on those BBS charts, except all offspring will carry a lavender gene.

How carrying a gene works is, because the gene is recessive, two copies are needed for it to express, one from the mother and one from the father. Since only one is received from the lavender parent, and not from the non-lavender parent, it does not express. But the bird still carries that gene from their lavender parent and thus has a 50-50 shot of passing it on to its own offspring.

It's worth noting that it's not advised to cross Blue and Lavender as it's very difficult to tell which birds have only Blue of those genes expressing, and which have both Blue and Lavender expressing. From what I understand, you just end up with birds that look like a paler Blue with bad lacing when both genes are expressing.

 

[gimmie birdies]

Now my hen was a frizzle,

both parents were blue splash, people even said she was blue splash.

She did have 2 daughters that looked like her, I love her color.
The daughter of her I still have is a black frizzle, (dad was BCM)
I am hoping the BCM frizzle still has blue in her genes, I am going to breed a blue bird to my BCM/friz.

 

[Poultrybonkers]

This is the chart I use I dont mix blue with my lavenders though. But if you did just dont keep the blue offspring if you plan on adding lavender to a breed

 

[Iluveggers]

Wow this has all been so informative! May I ask how all of you learned so much?

 

[Iluveggers]

& thanks very much for all of the explanations. I understand it much more now!