Lemon cuckoo or buff barred?

[Hans77]

So, apart from a wyandotte bantam crele project, I have also started another little project.
(For some reason I like colours that have not been recognized by our national federation yet...)
I put a wyandotte buff barred or lemon cuckoo rooster (is there a difference?) with a buff wyandotte hen. I think my rooster is double barred B/B, hence the lighter colour. So theoretically, I was hoping for a 100% outcome of buff barred (or lemon cuckoo?) chicks. I don't have any experience with this colour, but the chicks seem very light and as far as I can see, there is hardly any barring. Nevertheless, the chicks are only about 10 days, so they will obviously still change. Can this work out well?

 

[Gray Farms]

Looks like Buff Barred to me. I would think Lemmon Cuckoo would be slightly lighter and finer barring. Gorgeous bird by the way!

 

[The Moonshiner]

Your idea sounds right to me and sounds like you have a good understanding of the genes.
Yes if he is double factor barred all will be barred and if he is single factor barred half will be.
Of course either way the cockerels will be single factored so you'll have to go another generation to get the double factor barring on those.
As to buff barred or lemon cuckoo IDK.
The only difference in barred and cuckoo is that barring is on slow feathering breeds and cuckoo is the same gene on fast feathering breeds.
I've heard lemon can and is made with different genes so probably depends on who you ask or what breeds it on.
I've heard it was buff with a dilute or gold restricting gene. Also heard it didn't involve buff at all so IDK.
The only birds ive seen that were called lemon cuckoo was on orpingtons which were in fact straight buff with barring.

 

[nicalandia]

Lemon cuckoo and Buff Barred are used interchangeably to describe the same phenotype, but to be precise the Barred Pattern is of a finer and criespier type, Cuckoo is more uneven and that is due to the fast/slow feathering genetics, the issue is that the slow (K) feathering gene is closely linked to the sexed linked Silver(S) mutation, the linkage is of about 2.4 cM(Centimorgan, Map Units) means that the chance of getting the crisp barred pattern of Plymouth Rock on a gold based bird will be only 2-3%(chance of s+, K recombinants)

 

[gunslinger33]

Aren't Niederrheiner considered LC?

 

[nicalandia]

Aren't Niederrheiner considered LC?

The term is usually used on Self colored bird(Self Buff as in the entire body is buff as opposed to black-tailed buff or buff columbian)

the male on this video is black-tailed lemon cuckoo

 

[nicalandia]

And the birds by GFF are Cuckoo Buff Columbian

 

[gunslinger33]

Thanks for the clarification

 

[SurferchickinSB]

So, apart from a wyandotte bantam crele project, I have also started another little project.
(For some reason I like colours that have not been recognized by our national federation yet...)
I put a wyandotte buff barred or lemon cuckoo rooster (is there a difference?) with a buff wyandotte hen. I think my rooster is double barred B/B, hence the lighter colour. So theoretically, I was hoping for a 100% outcome of buff barred (or lemon cuckoo?) chicks. I don't have any experience with this colour, but the chicks seem very light and as far as I can see, there is hardly any barring. Nevertheless, the chicks are only about 10 days, so they will obviously still change. Can this work out well?
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Your rooster is beautiful!

 

[Hans77]

Chicks are almost 3 weeks now. Hoping to see a clear barring pattern soon.