Lockdown! Opinions and advice pleeeeease!! :)

[ourrune]

I will love to hear what you all think pretty please!!!! I am feeling insecure about the size of my eggs air sacks. I am going to provide a picture. I pretty much did dry incubation in in fl and it ran about 25 most of time when i saw it drop to about 21 i would add some water this only happened twice but now the air sacks just dont seem to be as big as they should be. Especially on a select few.

In the picture, the bottom lines you see is my last recording of thenair sacks and that is the low side on top of most of them if not all. I raised humidity since its day 19 but now i am concerned i should have dry ran until i saw first pip. But ive never done this before and im not even sure ill know a pip or a chirp when i see or hear one. Lol. Also i was afraid if it wasnt moist enough inside then they wouldnt be ablr to break through the membrane


I have one other question. If i see a chick piping way outside of the air sack zone. What am i supposed to do to help? Last night i gavr then one last turn and some of the eggs were rocking i thought then maybe i shouldnt have turned them and maybe i messed up their positioning so now i am very nervous i just messed up all these perfect chicks because im a newbie and made a stupid mistake!

My humidity is at about 65 right now and lowering what does everyone here di to keep it up at lockdown? Can i open it quickly to pour water in the pan below? I want to keep it at 75 but i can see now im going to have a hard time keeping the humidity up for the next few days.

Thank you for any reassurance and advice on how to go about all of this!!! Should i be worried about the size of the air sacks?


P.s. the egg behind the black thermometer has the smallest of air cells maybe dat 14 size

 

[Tanichca]

From an experienced hatcher... you sound fine. Everything you're doing is perfect, good job! It's going to be OK. In nature, the eggs would be moved around by a shifting mother hen even during lockdown, so they'll be fine. Just cross your fingers, pour yourself a drink, don't touch the eggs anymore, and wait! You can do it!

 

[ourrune]

From an experienced hatcher... you sound fine. Everything you're doing is perfect, good job! It's going to be OK. In nature, the eggs would be moved around by a shifting mother hen even during lockdown, so they'll be fine. Just cross your fingers, pour yourself a drink, don't touch the eggs anymore, and wait! You can do it! 

Haha youre awesome!!! Thank you very much! Im so scared i keep looking at them every few min lol

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I will love to hear what you all think pretty please!!!! I am feeling insecure about the size of my eggs air sacks. I am going to provide a picture. I pretty much did dry incubation in in fl and it ran about 25 most of time when i saw it drop to about 21 i would add some water this only happened twice but now the air sacks just dont seem to be as big as they should be. Especially on a select few.


In the picture, the bottom lines you see is my last recording of thenair sacks and that is the low side on top of most of them if not all. I raised humidity since its day 19 but now i am concerned i should have dry ran until i saw first pip. But ive never done this before and im not even sure ill know a pip or a chirp when i see or hear one. Lol. Also i was afraid if it wasnt moist enough inside then they wouldnt be ablr to break through the membrane


I have one other question. If i see a chick piping way outside of the air sack zone. What am i supposed to do to help? Last night i gavr then one last turn and some of the eggs were rocking i thought then maybe i shouldnt have turned them and maybe i messed up their positioning so now i am very nervous i just messed up all these perfect chicks because im a newbie and made a stupid mistake!

My humidity is at about 65 right now and lowering what does everyone here di to keep it up at lockdown? Can i open it quickly to pour water in the pan below? I want to keep it at 75 but i can see now im going to have a hard time keeping the humidity up for the next few days.

Thank you for any reassurance and advice on how to go about all of this!!! Should i be worried about the size of the air sacks?


P.s. the egg behind the black thermometer has the smallest of air cells maybe dat 14 size

Air cells look fine. Turning wouldn't compromise them, though generally you stop turning at day 18. As for keeping humidity up I use (new clean) wet sponges in my bator and when my humidity starts to drop, I crack the incubator open, pull out a sponge and rewet it and slip it back in. (If you need to add water, then yes, add the water. You need at least 60-65% if you are not opening during hatch 70%+ if you do open during hatch.) As for the pipper being outside the air cell lines. Air cells do draw down after lockdown and in most cases are quite a bit bigger than you think, so if it's not a pointy end malpositioned pipper and up near the mid to top there's still always a chance that the pip is in the air cell. I wouldn't get too worried until at least 18 hours with no progress (unless there are any signs of distress before that). I would read the Step by step guide to assisted hatching here on BYC before attempting to help.

Good luck on the hatch.

 

[ourrune]

Hi Amy! I just made a new post about my one over due egg. But youre so knowledgeable youre the one i look forward to answering my questions. I have my one overdue which i expected because his growth didnt match everkne elsees so i expected him to be a couple days late if he made it all the way. His air cell is about day 14. After everyone hatched i got the humidty down so his air cell would grow and decided id turned it up when it pips externally. Is it important for humidity to be high for him to pip internally? Well we left and i remembered I left the lid on the glass which i knew would make it too hot so rushed home to find it at 103 so i ran cool water on him and he cioled down fast o candled him and saw what looked like his body breathing fast and didnt thinm about it then he must have pipped internally? So i was happy i didnt kill him and was putting him back in when he kicked hard! I kept checking to see if there were any pips but none so at bed time i candled him and i cant see any movement at all now. I tapped the egg no movement no sounds veins looks gpne but i think yolk sac is there possibly i can see his feathers and beak but nothing moves. I did float test and he floated at air cell 15 to 20 percent.

Could he be dead and float as a viable egg? If he pipped internally he wouldnt float at air sack level right? What do you think could be going on? I feel like he definitely passed. And my husband and son want to crack him but i dont think its worth it if hes dead hes dead but if hes alive then he will be dead when we crack him. What do you think about hia status and the float test?

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Hi Amy! I just made a new post about my one over due egg. But youre so knowledgeable youre the one i look forward to answering my questions. I have my one overdue which i expected because his growth didnt match everkne elsees so i expected him to be a couple days late if he made it all the way. His air cell is about day 14. After everyone hatched i got the humidty down so his air cell would grow and decided id turned it up when it pips externally. Is it important for humidity to be high for him to pip internally? Well we left and i remembered I left the lid on the glass which i knew would make it too hot so rushed home to find it at 103 so i ran cool water on him and he cioled down fast o candled him and saw what looked like his body breathing fast and didnt thinm about it then he must have pipped internally? So i was happy i didnt kill him and was putting him back in when he kicked hard! I kept checking to see if there were any pips but none so at bed time i candled him and i cant see any movement at all now. I tapped the egg no movement no sounds veins looks gpne but i think yolk sac is there possibly i can see his feathers and beak but nothing moves. I did float test and he floated at air cell 15 to 20 percent.

Could he be dead and float as a viable egg? If he pipped internally he wouldnt float at air sack level right? What do you think could be going on? I feel like he definitely passed. And my husband and son want to crack him but i dont think its worth it if hes dead hes dead but if hes alive then he will be dead when we crack him. What do you think about hia status and the float test?

First, I would not ever put an incubated egg in cold water. Chances are you would just shock his system. Think about laying out in the hot sun for a couple hours and then diving head first into a pool of cold water..... The best thing to do in that situation is open the bator, and let the temp drop naturally. Depending on how long it was at 103, that is not a terrible spike. It takes the inside a lot longer to warm to that temp than it does the air.

As for the float test, even a quitter will float as long as the air cell is adequate. If they float AND wiggle, then you know you still have a viable chick. If they don't wiggle that's not a good sign. It could still be alive but maybe too weak for movement. If there is no movement and it's past day 23 of incubation I would not give it much hope. If the veins are no longer visible at all on top of everything. I would sooner think it's passed.

I always do eggtopsies now. They can be very educational. (They can also be very dissapointing and leave you with no answers and more questions.) I also do them to make sure that I am not throwing out an egg that has a living chick in it. I tap into the egg from the air cell, enough so that I can check for movement, but if there as still life I could put it back and give it more time and let nature play out. If there is no sign of life, no movement, no peeps, then I would continue with eggtopsy to see if I could learn anything.