I have 4 Cuckoo Marans hens from Ideal. They are nice birds, good temperament. Their eggs are definitely brown, but not near as dark as some of the pics I've seen on here. They are the same color as the Welsummer hens I'm getting from my Welsummer hens that I also got from Ideal this past spring. For hatchery birds, I'm happy with them and Welsummers.