I have their wings on one side clipped but they are good at getting out about as good as the Bourbons am I dreaming that during the day they will stay in a 5ft fence? I've just moved them to their new digs so I will not be letting them out for a week. The new house is a dog pen covered and I've put up hot wire on the outside for my foxes before they were in a horse stall and they used the waterer to hop up on to get to the top of the 11 ft high stall and they just couldn't get back in by themselves...they would go right back in when I opened the door. It's the early mornings that make them explorers and where they are now I have to let them out..