KO, For what it's worth, I saw the photos you posted of your birds and they do look nice, especially the Red Palm. However, when I looked at your red bronze gobbler, something struck me as odd and may explain your gobblers feather appearance. It's his neck! It appears that it is shorter than normal and he is thus unable to reach the back and tail feathers for proper grooming. Several years ago I hatched out a group of bronzes and noticed that one had a noticably shorter neck than the others. As he matured it became more and more obvious that he couldn't reach his neck back far enough to preen the back half of his body, and thus looked a lot like yours does. He also couldn't get the feather sheath off the quill. Needless to say, I didn't use him as a breeder because I wasn't sure if this was a genetic abnomally or a defect due to incubation.