Necropsy Results and Medication

[Myrshine]

So I had 2 necropsies I sent to my state of my birds that have died from some sort of respiratory like disease. Results came back saying it’s a bad case of aspergillosis fungus. There was also a bacteria called enterobacter that came back as well. Does anyone know what enterobacter is and how it affects my birds?

Doctor recommended Itraconazole to treat the fungus. I’ll be calling him back tomorrow to ask some questions, but I figured I’d ask here as well. Should I order the oral version of this medication? Do I have to treat every bird individually? Can it be administered in the water? How long is the egg and meat withdrawal?

 

[CluckerFamily]

Any word from the Doctor?
I have never heard of this before but I am also not an expert chicken tender.

 

[Myrshine]

Any word from the Doctor?
I have never heard of this before but I am also not an expert chicken tender.

Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get ahold of him today. Maybe on Monday I’ll try. I’ve never heard of it either, so it’s weird to me lol.

 

[Myrshine]

Still haven’t had the time to call. Does anyone here know what Enterobacter is?

 

[Dephora]

I am only familiar with campylobacter, I use to volunteer for the health department call center where we had to call people infected and ask them questions to try and trace their infection. It was basically a foodborne illness resulting in a very bad time haha.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559296/
Looks like enterobacter can be the cause of many kinds of infections, including respiratory. I only know that bacter family as being an intestinal/gastro issue. If they told you what part of the body they found it would be helpful. But enterobacter like campylobacter can be found on anything and everything human skin, blood, feces, soil, raw meat, dairy. Entero by its latin meaning just means intestine, anything starting with Entero means it is intestine focused, but in this case not sure if the bacteria came from the intestine or if it infected the intestine. It is a normal "bad" bacteria hanging out just waiting to colonize.

 

[jwlee]

I don’t know anything about it but I found this online. https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/enterococcosis/enterococcosis-in-poultry
Does anybody know if Merck Manual is reliable?

 

[Ursuline Chick]

I don’t know anything about it but I found this online. https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/enterococcosis/enterococcosis-in-poultry
Does anybody know if Merck Manual is reliable?

Yes, Merck Manual is used in human treatment. I would trust the info from it on any diseases

 

[Dephora]

I don’t know anything about it but I found this online. https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poultry/enterococcosis/enterococcosis-in-poultry
Does anybody know if Merck Manual is reliable?

I don't beleive Enterococcosis and Enterobacter are the same bacterium. I am unsure if the transmission and infection is exactly the same. I do not beleive Enterococcosis will cause a respiratory infection for example. I am sure they have similar outcomes though in any case.

 

[CMW]

I know this is an old thread but wondering if you found out anything about Enterobacter. I have two chickens that were just diagnosed with an Enterobacter infection in their throats. A week prior I had a chicken die suddenly of what seemed to have been a respiratory infection (I'm still waiting on necroscopy results) so I'm assuming it was the same infection but at a more advanced stage. I know Enterobacter is an opportunistic pathogen, but there isn't much out there about it causing respiratory problems in chickens as far as I can tell. I took the chickens in to get looked at after the one died, but their symptoms were only some minor clear nasal discharge and occasionally shaking their heads. They seemed fine otherwise. Any info would be great if you have any!

 

[Myrshine]

I know this is an old thread but wondering if you found out anything about Enterobacter. I have two chickens that were just diagnosed with an Enterobacter infection in their throats. A week prior I had a chicken die suddenly of what seemed to have been a respiratory infection (I'm still waiting on necroscopy results) so I'm assuming it was the same infection but at a more advanced stage. I know Enterobacter is an opportunistic pathogen, but there isn't much out there about it causing respiratory problems in chickens as far as I can tell. I took the chickens in to get looked at after the one died, but their symptoms were only some minor clear nasal discharge and occasionally shaking their heads. They seemed fine otherwise. Any info would be great if you have any!

When mine had the symptoms you've described above, they were diagnosed with MG.