So I am going to sleep uneasy again with our birds kicking, shaking, and scratching in the coop as I type - hate to leave them like this!
Tried DE, Poultry Protector spray, Ivermectin pour on, Elector PSP on birds and coop.
No improvement.
They are bothered mostly at night while roosting but also during the day.
Feather damage suggests feather mites and ivermectin should take care of that after a few re-treats, but this seems to be more!
the kicking and sudden head jerks and stomping and tail flicking suggests that they are being bitten by something else, too
I have Pyrethrins powder and concentrate, both - it says to "dust plumage" as needed but not to get it on yourself - duh! how can you do that? Our Guineas fight like heck when caught and **will shake** immediately when dusted against their permission, so how can I help getting this stuff all over and in me / us if I treat this way?
I can mix the pyrethrins and spray them, but that will get their skin soaked, not their feathers - the Elector PSP spray was problematic on the feathers since the feathers do not accept liquid but repel it, so it runs off until they (and I) are (am) soaked – so, how do you do this properly???
Spray or dust? Ok to breathe / get on skin on birds and me????
Our vet also said I could use Frontline but I see mixed messages on the forum threads – some say not to use it as it is too toxic and stays with the birds for a long time – also, not labeled for birds! Vet said to use dog stuff, but how do I get the dose right. Formulary says not to exceed 7.5 mg per kg of body weight. And what is that (S)-methoprene in there? Is that ok for the birds?
https://www.amazon.com/Exotic-Animal-Formulary-James-Carpenter/dp/0323444504/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1530851549&sr=8-1&keywords=exotic+animal+formulary
I am sorry, but I am panicking – the birds are getting thin and are very stressed from this – it has been going on for about 2 months and I am afraid I may lose some this way – yet I am afraid to lose them to overtreating with toxics.
Finding out what I am dealing with would be sweet but that has been equally difficult. Can’t see anything, not the vet either, and nothing on the roosting bars with white towel wipe or magnifying glass or tape and microscope. Nothing! Just the birds and me driven mad and sick by this.
Any help or reassurance about treating with pyrethrins or fipronil or any other good ideas would be awesome help right now!
I may try to take a video of them kicking and twitching and scratching tomorrow, if I can get it uploaded to show you. Sigh!
Tried DE, Poultry Protector spray, Ivermectin pour on, Elector PSP on birds and coop.
No improvement.
They are bothered mostly at night while roosting but also during the day.
Feather damage suggests feather mites and ivermectin should take care of that after a few re-treats, but this seems to be more!
the kicking and sudden head jerks and stomping and tail flicking suggests that they are being bitten by something else, too
I have Pyrethrins powder and concentrate, both - it says to "dust plumage" as needed but not to get it on yourself - duh! how can you do that? Our Guineas fight like heck when caught and **will shake** immediately when dusted against their permission, so how can I help getting this stuff all over and in me / us if I treat this way?
I can mix the pyrethrins and spray them, but that will get their skin soaked, not their feathers - the Elector PSP spray was problematic on the feathers since the feathers do not accept liquid but repel it, so it runs off until they (and I) are (am) soaked – so, how do you do this properly???
Spray or dust? Ok to breathe / get on skin on birds and me????
Our vet also said I could use Frontline but I see mixed messages on the forum threads – some say not to use it as it is too toxic and stays with the birds for a long time – also, not labeled for birds! Vet said to use dog stuff, but how do I get the dose right. Formulary says not to exceed 7.5 mg per kg of body weight. And what is that (S)-methoprene in there? Is that ok for the birds?
https://www.amazon.com/Exotic-Animal-Formulary-James-Carpenter/dp/0323444504/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1530851549&sr=8-1&keywords=exotic+animal+formulary
I am sorry, but I am panicking – the birds are getting thin and are very stressed from this – it has been going on for about 2 months and I am afraid I may lose some this way – yet I am afraid to lose them to overtreating with toxics.
Finding out what I am dealing with would be sweet but that has been equally difficult. Can’t see anything, not the vet either, and nothing on the roosting bars with white towel wipe or magnifying glass or tape and microscope. Nothing! Just the birds and me driven mad and sick by this.
Any help or reassurance about treating with pyrethrins or fipronil or any other good ideas would be awesome help right now!
I may try to take a video of them kicking and twitching and scratching tomorrow, if I can get it uploaded to show you. Sigh!
