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OK, having gone through tons of posts already I thought I had this figured out....I did not!!!

Brand new to chickens in March, I have 8 hens from Runnings in NY. Several varieties : isa reds, Plymouth rock, and Americana's.

All girls started laying about 4 weeks ago except Americana's which were 2 weeks younger than the rest of the flock. One Americana started 2 weeks later... we were unable to confirm if the other had as well but based on 1 blue egg we knew one of them was. We regualry get 5-7 eggs daily. They went from medicated starter to layer pellets at approximately the time they began laying.

This past Friday we noticed one of them while free ranging was standing eyes closed, completely uninterested in the flock or foraging. After watching her I gathered the rest and brought them into their coop, she became less responsive and even was getting bumped into by the others with no reaction to them. Her comb is small like the other Americana but it was noticeably pale.

I immediately separated her and noticed she had partially white/yellowish dirreaha. After reading a million posts and speaking a neighbor who has raised chickens for 20 years we decided it was likely Cocci.

We bought liquid Corrid, treated her water 1/2 teaspoon to 1 quart in her small waterer. We tried giving her a dropper with a few drops orally but she fought us bad! She did eat and drink some of the water and food we put out but not much Friday night. Saturday mid day she seemed to be doing better, we gave a small dose in a dropper in the morning and at 3pm and she seemed to be recovering nicely. Sunday she seemed to be headed back to being sicker, with some eye closining her left again. At this point she was fighting the dropper really bad and it took 3 of us to try and get some in her beak. We switched to adding some undiluted Corrid to some cooked corn which she gobbled up. By mid day she seemed to again be recovering, no eye closing and more movement and vocal noises. She did seem to be grooming a lot, but I see no signs of bugs anywhere. When you initially walk in the room she looks down and moves her head back and forth a lot quickly, almost like she is grooming her lower neck.

The main coop was cleaned thoroughly , and water treated for the flock with Corrid.

By Sunday night she was visably better, firm poops, some soft but not liquid, no yellow foam, Monday Morning more of the improvement, I continued the day with 2 small servings of corn with Corrid dropped on them separated by a few hours. She was VERY vocal all day singing and squawking. By mid day I had decided it was time to re introduce her.

At 5pm while the flock was free ranging I brought her out, which went very horribly, her best buddy the other Americana immediately pecked her and took 2 feathers other, 4 others surrounded her until I intervened. She's always been at the bottom of the pecking order, so this was surprise. She did approach a few others to stand tall and challenge them to which she backed down without violence. An hour later she was moving about fine, still skittish of the rest. They all went to roost in the coop, she was last in and was abruptly pecked, she came back out to talk to me through the run fencing where I was standing. I left as I wanted her to push herself to go back in as it was getting dark. She eventually took her position on a perch about 12 inches from the last chicken.

This morning I let them out to free range briefly before work, everything seemed fine, they were out for about 20 minutes. I lured them back into the run with some veggies and she was pecking the food with one eye closed, followed by going off and closing both eyes while standing. I brought her back to the quarantine coop and she immediately laid down flat on the perch and went to sleep. I gave her some treated corn which she was alert for but then she went and laid on the floor.

When I go into the room she coo's and does the looking down, quick movements again. I had checked her again for mites and saw nothing. Fetahers look perfect and clean, she isn't huge but not skinny either.

They are free ranged when we are in the yard, in a 10x14 fully fenced run and a 4x8 hen house. They have never been wormed, and I have not seen worms in any of their stool but have not analyzed much of it until she began showing symptoms. I did not realize until the episode that I needed to worm them.

Any help diagnosing her would be very appreciated. Did I bring her back out too soon? Is it not cocci and maybe worms? What the heck do I do for my sweet girl!? Thank you in advance for your time!!
 
This was her poop Friday
 

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This is her in the isolation cage today... she immediately went in and laid down, her comb is back to its normal reddish color... ( she has her beak tucked inside her left win)
 

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OK, having gone through tons of posts already I thought I had this figured out....I did not!!!

Brand new to chickens in March, I have 8 hens from Runnings in NY. Several varieties : isa reds, Plymouth rock, and Americana's.

All girls started laying about 4 weeks ago except Americana's which were 2 weeks younger than the rest of the flock. One Americana started 2 weeks later... we were unable to confirm if the other had as well but based on 1 blue egg we knew one of them was. We regualry get 5-7 eggs daily. They went from medicated starter to layer pellets at approximately the time they began laying.

This past Friday we noticed one of them while free ranging was standing eyes closed, completely uninterested in the flock or foraging. After watching her I gathered the rest and brought them into their coop, she became less responsive and even was getting bumped into by the others with no reaction to them. Her comb is small like the other Americana but it was noticeably pale.

I immediately separated her and noticed she had partially white/yellowish dirreaha. After reading a million posts and speaking a neighbor who has raised chickens for 20 years we decided it was likely Cocci.

We bought liquid Corrid, treated her water 1/2 teaspoon to 1 quart in her small waterer. We tried giving her a dropper with a few drops orally but she fought us bad! She did eat and drink some of the water and food we put out but not much Friday night. Saturday mid day she seemed to be doing better, we gave a small dose in a dropper in the morning and at 3pm and she seemed to be recovering nicely. Sunday she seemed to be headed back to being sicker, with some eye closining her left again. At this point she was fighting the dropper really bad and it took 3 of us to try and get some in her beak. We switched to adding some undiluted Corrid to some cooked corn which she gobbled up. By mid day she seemed to again be recovering, no eye closing and more movement and vocal noises. She did seem to be grooming a lot, but I see no signs of bugs anywhere. When you initially walk in the room she looks down and moves her head back and forth a lot quickly, almost like she is grooming her lower neck.

The main coop was cleaned thoroughly , and water treated for the flock with Corrid.

By Sunday night she was visably better, firm poops, some soft but not liquid, no yellow foam, Monday Morning more of the improvement, I continued the day with 2 small servings of corn with Corrid dropped on them separated by a few hours. She was VERY vocal all day singing and squawking. By mid day I had decided it was time to re introduce her.

At 5pm while the flock was free ranging I brought her out, which went very horribly, her best buddy the other Americana immediately pecked her and took 2 feathers other, 4 others surrounded her until I intervened. She's always been at the bottom of the pecking order, so this was surprise. She did approach a few others to stand tall and challenge them to which she backed down without violence. An hour later she was moving about fine, still skittish of the rest. They all went to roost in the coop, she was last in and was abruptly pecked, she came back out to talk to me through the run fencing where I was standing. I left as I wanted her to push herself to go back in as it was getting dark. She eventually took her position on a perch about 12 inches from the last chicken.

This morning I let them out to free range briefly before work, everything seemed fine, they were out for about 20 minutes. I lured them back into the run with some veggies and she was pecking the food with one eye closed, followed by going off and closing both eyes while standing. I brought her back to the quarantine coop and she immediately laid down flat on the perch and went to sleep. I gave her some treated corn which she was alert for but then she went and laid on the floor.

When I go into the room she coo's and does the looking down, quick movements again. I had checked her again for mites and saw nothing. Fetahers look perfect and clean, she isn't huge but not skinny either.

They are free ranged when we are in the yard, in a 10x14 fully fenced run and a 4x8 hen house. They have never been wormed, and I have not seen worms in any of their stool but have not analyzed much of it until she began showing symptoms. I did not realize until the episode that I needed to worm them.

Any help diagnosing her would be very appreciated. Did I bring her back out too soon? Is it not cocci and maybe worms? What the heck do I do for my sweet girl!? Thank you in advance for your time!!
Hi and welcome to BYC :frow I'm sure others will get here soon--but in addition to what you've done, I'd give her nutri-drench and a well balanced grower ration (18% protein). If you've got a can of pink salmon give her a couple ounces with juice as well. Again welcome and we're glad you joined us. @Ravynscroft Please double check my instructions.
 
Thank you, I am trying everything possible to help her on my own but need some expert advice!!
 
Coccidiosis could have been a problem, but it sounds like something else may be happening. Feel of her crop during the day to see if it is full, soft, hard, or puffy like a balloon. Repeat this early in the morning before she has eaten or drunk fluids. Impacted or sour crop could cause the funny neck movements, or she may just have been normally adjusting her crop.
Sometimes pullets this age may be having a reproductive problem, such as internal laying, especially since she has not begun to lay yet. They can have varied symptoms, but feeling bad, tucking the beak under a wing, diarrhea, and poor appetite can be some of the symptoms. Unfortunately those can be symptoms of many problems, so it might take a vet or more time to figure it out.
The most important thing is to get her to take water and some food. The salmon was a good idea, but chopped egg, tuna, or liver are good small treats as well. Try making a small bowl of her usual feed mixed with water, and add a little egg and a tsp of plain yogurt for probiotics. Have more than one spot to eat and drink in case she is being kept away. Feel of her keel bone (breast bone) and hold her to see if she feels thin or has lost weight. Feel of her lower belly for any enlargement or tightness. Check her skin around the vent and elsewhere for evidence of lice or mites.
 
I just wanted to thank everyone for their time in assisting. As follow up, she made a quick recovery after giving her a hard boiled egg and a nutri drench regiment. She went back with the flock the other day and to my delight laid her first egg yesterday!! Things seem to be headed the right direction and I have learned some valuable lessons! Thanks again
 

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