Newbie broody mistake... help me fix it?

LadyLuck

In the Brooder
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Mar 15, 2012
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Ok, Two girls, Snow and Goldie went broody about the same time. Based on our last experience, we just let them set on their nests in the regular coop and waited to move them until the first babies hatched. (That worked last time, Trying to move mommy and nest gave her great upset, but once the first peep was here, we moved her whole nest box into the nursery coop and she did fine). Saturday both girls had a baby under them, so Sunday we moved them both to the nursery coop.

We put two separate shelters (1 is a very large plastic bin/tub, upside down, with a door way cut out; the other a very long wooden box done the same way but with a hinge lid on top so we can open it) in the nursery run and put a hen with her nest box in each, so they were separately sheltered but shared the same food, water, and run space.

this morning (monday) went out to check them and all hell had broken loose. Snow had left her nest and was in Goldie's box, Goldie wasn't on her nest but was as far away from it as she could get with her baby under her. Snow's baby is gone. GONE. Can't find baby, can't find dead body, can't find a pile of fuzz and bones. One egg in Goldie's nest is broken (with partially formed dead chick, yuck what a mess). Snow is in Goldie's box running frantic.

I removed Snow, put her back on her nest under the plastic bin, emptied the broken egg and its mess out of the box and put the other two eggs back in. In about 20 minutes, Goldie moved her chick back in with the eggs and was sitting on them all again.

I came inside and posted to my local chicken group that I needed a day old (or as young as possible) chick to put under Snow to keep her from going crazy. someone then told me that the problem was having two broody hens in the same enclosure.
I began to connect the dots and realized I had done a major mistake.

I immediately went outside and moved Snow and her whole box back to the main coop where she sat right on them and calmed down a lot.

So, Goldie and her baby and her nest are safe in the nursery coop. I don't really think that any other eggs will hatch. The one that was broken looked to be much less developed than I would have thought. We have enough chickens so we only let each girl set 3-4 eggs, and to be honest, I think that 1 or 2 were laid later by other hens (after the broodies started setting, like during their breaks) so they could be quite a bit difference in age. However, I will let her set on the other two eggs until she leaves them to take her chick out. She and her baby should be fine now.

Snow however, I have no idea if she will hatch any more out, If one hatched Saturday and it is Monday with no more action... well, I'm not hopeful. I am worried though because she has been setting the whole time and when you pick her up, you can tell she is quite light, so she has lost weight while setting (which I know is normal). I'm just worried that if she tries to keep setting these eggs she will lose too much weight. I certainly don't want to take these eggs and start over with fresh ones and have her set another 20 days, she will for sure lose too much weight then.

I don't have another pen to use as a nursery pen (if I could get a baby for her I mean) and I feel very uncomfortable with babies in the main coop. It is large and the chickens free roam all day long and only use the coop at night and the ladies come and go to lay eggs during the day, but it is shared by 21 chickens including several roosters and also 2 guineas, I just don't think it is a safe place for a wee peep.

What do I do for Snow? Let her sit on her nest until she realizes that the eggs are dead (if indeed they are)? Buy her a baby (if I can find one) and try to cobble together another coop (not sure husband will go for that... we have 3 now, plus a duck run)? If I just leave her be will she eventually just get over it and get up?
I'm sad about the baby and feel so guilty that I likely caused this, but now I'm worried about Snow losing too much weight if she keeps setting a nest.
 
She may give up soon. I had two broodies due to hatch on Sat. (no eggs hatched) and when I went to take them off the nests today, they had both left on their own. If she doesn't give up in another day or two, if she were mine, I'd buy her a couple of babies to raise. I have another broody that I'm going to set this week. I plan on moving her and her golfball tomorrow night, and putting real eggs under her Wed. if she has stayed where I put her. I'd rather move them earlier than later in incubation.
 
Sorry to hear about the chick! Same thing happened with me on my first broody hatching attempt :-(
 
I have a problem with a first timer too. She has been sitting on eleven eggs. I always keep up with them and never let one have this many eggs. This all happened while i was on vacation. I came home and she was on them. My hubs just fed and watered while i was away.. did no nest checks at all. Anyway. I was only gone for 5 days so I knew they were developmentaly over that 5 day span. Last night I did my nest check to remove any spares that were layed that day and there were only teen eggs and some shell.. I looked under her and lifted her wings and no baby... got my flashlight and finally found the body pushed way to the back of the nest.. It has been pecked and looked like the yolk sac had not been absorbed all the way and she had dried yolk all over her bill. I discarded the body and tonight there ws one that had a pip,,, but she was working it over.. there was some blood and it was alive but not doing well. It is pretty much in the membrane sack as she had prettymuch removed all the shell.. Do you think she is going to kill every one of them? I dont have an incubator anymore as mine broke last year and I dont want to raise any this year. I dont have any more broodys to move the eggs to either.
 
I have a problem with a first timer too. She has been sitting on eleven eggs. I always keep up with them and never let one have this many eggs. This all happened while i was on vacation. I came home and she was on them. My hubs just fed and watered while i was away.. did no nest checks at all. Anyway. I was only gone for 5 days so I knew they were developmentaly over that 5 day span. Last night I did my nest check to remove any spares that were layed that day and there were only teen eggs and some shell.. I looked under her and lifted her wings and no baby... got my flashlight and finally found the body pushed way to the back of the nest.. It has been pecked and looked like the yolk sac had not been absorbed all the way and she had dried yolk all over her bill. I discarded the body and tonight there ws one that had a pip,,, but she was working it over.. there was some blood and it was alive but not doing well. It is pretty much in the membrane sack as she had prettymuch removed all the shell.. Do you think she is going to kill every one of them? I dont have an incubator anymore as mine broke last year and I dont want to raise any this year. I dont have any more broodys to move the eggs to either.
One of my first-time broodies killed all 6 of her chicks (one at a time) before I could even see them pipping the shells. I kept a closer eye on the other broody hens and they have done fine. The chances are real good that she will kill all the chicks as they start hatching.
 
If Snow is still wanting to set, maybe someone in your local group would have an egg close to hatching that they could give you. Easier than trying to sneak a chick under her.
 
I was able to save the second one.. When it fluffed up I put it back with her and she is great with it.. Two more when I got home from work and I was sure was dead. Had their heads out of the membrane. And I went to throw them away and one started cheeping at me.. So I brought it in and put it under warm water and it is doing so so. Have it under a heat lamp and if it makes it, I will give it back to her. Not sure if she is lacking something that is making her eat the shell and the yolk. I also may have a miracle baby. My husband told me on the phone while I was at work way early this morning thAt she had kicked ane that was trying to hatch out onto the floor over night and it was stone cold.... He just left it and eight hors later I got home and got it. It was sooooo cold. I started to break it out to see if something was wrong that would make her discard it but it was so cold I just decided to throw it into the hay field where I would have to see it. I swung my arm to give it a fling and... It cheeped. I rand to the house with it and ran it under the warm water too. It was still so cold.. I broke the top half of the shell off before I ran warm water on it, so that its head would not be under the water.... :). When that warm water went over its little body it kicked the bottom of the shell right off. It is under the heat lamp with the first one, and is looking like the healthier of the two. Just went and looked and three more trying to hatch.. Two with pips and one that she is breaking the shell off of... Not sure what to do...
 
so sorry that I posted and then didn't come back!

Snow did hatch another egg, we have a happy, healthy peep. I last checked under her on Saturday, and found the peep this evening. Now we still have to figure out what to do with her and the peep (they are in the nesting boxes of the main coop, I don't feel it is safe in there), but we'll throw something together quickly.

I am SO glad, I had been talking to my daughter about taking her eggs and somehow forcing her to break her broodiness because she has lost so much weight and looks puny, Now with good conscience I can give her another day or two then take the other eggs and she should be fine since she does have a baby.

one last question, the TSC has a number of different poultry vitamins, should I give her some to help her boost back up? She has been brooding for far too long now and the really bad heat is almost here, I don't want her to face the scorching heat while she is still stressed from the broody.
 
Ya'll seriously, surely snow is approaching a record.
It's now been a week since the second baby hatched (two weeks since the first one who disappeared). I intended to take the remaining eggs after just a day or two, but she is FIERCE.
Surely she would just abandon them, you know?

Nope. Bringing the peep out for a bit to eat and drink and then back in the nest. It has been raining hard the past few days, so no harm done, they would have had to stay in the nest anyway.
Today I went out and she was in the nest and I thought, "enough is enough, I'm taking those eggs, she has been setting on a nest for going on 40 days."

Picked her up and what do you think I see?

 

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