NPIP question Texas

[Rose_adamaj]

I purchased a pair of bantam Wyandotte’s. They are NPIP certified, it expires the end of this month.
Is it possible to transfer their certification to me?
I have searched the internet, I called the phone number listed on NPIP.org website. No answer & voicemail full.
I will be keeping them certified as I want to be able to show them in La as well as Tx.
Thank you in advance!

 

[U_Stormcrow]

You will have to get certified. or qualifying vet inspections.

NPIP is essentially a chain of custody scheme. Example below.


Chucks chicks (NPIP certified) sells birds to Donald Duckling and Edward Egghead. Donald isn't NPIP, Edward is.

Frank Falcon is also NPIP and wants some of Chuck's Chicks - but chuck is out of stock.

If Frank buys the Chucks Chicks from Edward, his flock remains NPIP certified, all is good. Frank can then sell those birds across state lines to Ginny Guinnea or Henrietta Henpecked.

But if Frank buys the birds from Donald, Frank loses the NPIP certification on his property until he is reinspected - its a violation of his NPIP agreement. Frank can no longer legally sell (ANY of his birds, not just the ones he got from Donald) across state lines to Ginny or Henrietta w/o either recertification or a vet inspection for the individual birds that satisfies the requirements of the recieving state.

Why? There is a record of transfer of birds (by number, not by individual identifier) from Chuck all the way to Frank (or Ginny, or Henrietta) - so if there is a desease outbreak at Chucks, or Edwards, or wherever along the chain, it can be quickly traced back to its poiunt of origin, and forward to those who may have recieved infected birds. That information can then be used to attempt to arrest the spread of disease (quarantine or cull).

But if it went thru a non-NPIP seller, their premises aren't inspected, they aren't required to keep records, and it becomes much more difficult to both determine origin and contain the spread of any poultry-borne disease.

and yes, NPIP origin is no guarantee of current state of health. It only indicates a clean test for one of several (varies by state) avian diseases at some past date. Its also voluntary, and better than nothing. But as with all exercises in line drawing, different people might reasonably choose to draw different lines.

 

[Rose_adamaj]

You will have to get certified. or qualifying vet inspections.

NPIP is essentially a chain of custody scheme. Example below.


Chucks chicks (NPIP certified) sells birds to Donald Duckling and Edward Egghead. Donald isn't NPIP, Edward is.

Frank Falcon is also NPIP and wants some of Chuck's Chicks - but chuck is out of stock.

If Frank buys the Chucks Chicks from Edward, his flock remains NPIP certified, all is good. Frank can then sell those birds across state lines to Ginny Guinnea or Henrietta Henpecked.

But if Frank buys the birds from Donald, Frank loses the NPIP certification on his property until he is reinspected - its a violation of his NPIP agreement. Frank can no longer legally sell across state lines to Ginny or Henrietta w/o either recertification or a vet inspection for the individual birds that satisfies the requirements of the recieving state.


Why? There is a record of transfer of birds (by number, not by individual identifier) from Chuck all the way to Frank (or Ginny, or Henrietta) - so if there is a desease outbreak at Chucks, or Edwards, or wherever along the chain, it can be quickly traced back to its poiunt of origin, and forward to those who may have recieved infected birds. That information can then be used to attempt to arrest the spread of disease (quarantine or cull).

But if it went thru a non-NPIP seller, their premises aren't inspected, they aren't required to keep records, and it becomes much more difficult to both determine origin and contain the spread of any poultry-borne disease.

and yes, NPIP origin is no guarantee of current state of health. It only indicates a clean test for one of several (varies by state) avian diseases at some past date. Its also voluntary, and better than nothing. But as with all exercises in line drawing, different people might reasonably choose to draw different lines.

Thank you so much! I appreciate the way you explained it. I was confused after reading different things online.
Now I will start the process, that much I did figure out

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Happy to help. Sometimes an example helps to picture it. Sometimes, my examples don't help at all.

and yes, I've been NPIP for years, though I don't sell birds at all (yet).

 

[Rose_adamaj]

Happy to help. Sometimes an example helps to picture it. Sometimes, my examples don't help at all.

and yes, I've been NPIP for years, though I don't sell birds at all (yet).

Yes, your example makes perfect sense to me.
I don’t plan on selling any birds, but I am going to try my hand at showing.
If I cross state lines I need to be NPIP certified.
I had it wrong in that I thought it was the birds who were certified.
Thank you again!

 

[VictoriaTexas]

You will have to get certified. or qualifying vet inspections.

NPIP is essentially a chain of custody scheme. Example below.


Chucks chicks (NPIP certified) sells birds to Donald Duckling and Edward Egghead. Donald isn't NPIP, Edward is.

Frank Falcon is also NPIP and wants some of Chuck's Chicks - but chuck is out of stock.

If Frank buys the Chucks Chicks from Edward, his flock remains NPIP certified, all is good. Frank can then sell those birds across state lines to Ginny Guinnea or Henrietta Henpecked.

But if Frank buys the birds from Donald, Frank loses the NPIP certification on his property until he is reinspected - its a violation of his NPIP agreement. Frank can no longer legally sell (ANY of his birds, not just the ones he got from Donald) across state lines to Ginny or Henrietta w/o either recertification or a vet inspection for the individual birds that satisfies the requirements of the recieving state.

Why? There is a record of transfer of birds (by number, not by individual identifier) from Chuck all the way to Frank (or Ginny, or Henrietta) - so if there is a desease outbreak at Chucks, or Edwards, or wherever along the chain, it can be quickly traced back to its poiunt of origin, and forward to those who may have recieved infected birds. That information can then be used to attempt to arrest the spread of disease (quarantine or cull).

But if it went thru a non-NPIP seller, their premises aren't inspected, they aren't required to keep records, and it becomes much more difficult to both determine origin and contain the spread of any poultry-borne disease.

and yes, NPIP origin is no guarantee of current state of health. It only indicates a clean test for one of several (varies by state) avian diseases at some past date. Its also voluntary, and better than nothing. But as with all exercises in line drawing, different people might reasonably choose to draw different lines.