Organic McMuffin

[pastryman]

McDonald's in Denmark just started only using local organic eggs in McMuffins. They have already used organic milk in happy meals and coffee for some time.

In Denmark organic eggs means:
- No beak trimming
- 100 % organic non-GMO feed
- Getting outside 365 day a year
- Having 43 square feet each outside
- Having greens and ensilage every day
- Having roosts and dust baths
- Strict control with medication

How is the situation with organic eggs/food and McDonald's in the US and elsewhere? If they don't have organic eggs and so on. This shows, that it is possible to make them use it.

 

[hemet dennis]

How many fast food companies are there in Denmark ?

 

[MeatKing]

We do not have that in Canada Sounds awesome though. In Canada the word "organic' is not regualted very well. Nor is the word free range

So happy to see this Happening somewhere..

How did it come to be? Would love to help try to change things here. I realize at some point the government stepped up, but what was did people do to make the governement think?

I think you may be way ahead of our country in this.

Needs to change! If Mc D did it there why not here!
Thank-you for posting

We need to hear things like this

 

[pastryman]

Hello hemet dennis
I don't know. Quite a few, but not to many big ones. I think McDonald's is the largest. Larger than Burger King and Sunset for sure. Most common is family owned pizza places run by Arab immigrants and places with hot dogs (not like the ones in the US).

 

[pastryman]

Hello MeatKing
The government is helping by making a strict system that tells what you need to do as a producer, if you want to use the term "organic" (økologisk in danish), and make a lot of control visits and so on. You can not even use the same truck to transport organic and non-organic grains. They also test the end product to look for traces of pesticides. Farmers don't even want to try cheating.

The government also give support to farmers who want to go organic, because they need to run the farm organic two years before they can sell it as organic. In that period, they get money from the state.
The state get the money back, because organic food is more expensive, and there is a fixed tax on all food, therefore the state earns more on organic food.
Almost 10 % of all food sold in Denmark is organic. It is a world record, but could be a lot better. 30 % of the milk sold is organic, and all the organic cows are on grass when it is not winter.

There was a campaign by a leading animal rights organization, but it did not get a lot of attention. I think McDonald's did it because they think they can sell more this way and improve their image.

 

[hemet dennis]

Hello MeatKing
The government is helping by making a strict system that tells what you need to do as a producer, if you want to use the term "organic" (økologisk in danish), and make a lot of control visits and so on. You can not even use the same truck to transport organic and non-organic grains. They also test the end product to look for traces of pesticides. Farmers don't even want to try cheating.

The government also give support to farmers who want to go organic, because they need to run the farm organic two years before they can sell it as organic. In that period, they get money from the state.
The state get the money back, because organic food is more expensive, and there is a fixed tax on all food, therefore the state earns more on organic food.
Almost 10 % of all food sold in Denmark is organic. It is a world record, but could be a lot better. 30 % of the milk sold is organic, and all the organic cows are on grass when it is not winter.

There was a campaign by a leading animal rights organization, but it did not get a lot of attention. I think McDonald's did it because they think they can sell more this way and improve their image.

Does Denmark really tax food ?
A business makes all decisions on if it will make money.

 

[pastryman]

Yes hemet dennis. In Denmark there is a 25 % tax on everything you buy. Food, a new bicycle, getting a haircut, having the the bathroom fixed and everything else.

But wages are high and there is universal free health care, elementary school, high school and university. And good quality. Two of the universities are high on international lists (there are only public high schools and universities here). You can't buy education here. You need good grades. You also get 1200-1400 US dollars every month while you are studying.

There's is also 1200-2200 US dollars every month if you have no job (as long as you have no job), and cheap dental care and childcare. If you have no job, dental care and childcare is also completely free.

But regardless of the many differences between states, I think it is possible to make McDonald's use truly organic eggs everywhere.

And yes, You are right, companies makes all decisions on if it will make money. The difference here is whether they did it because they don't want negative publicity in a protest, or because they know a lot of people will by more if they go organic.

 

[hemet dennis]

Yes hemet dennis. In Denmark there is a 25 % tax on everything you buy. Food, a new bicycle, getting a haircut, having the the bathroom fixed and everything else.

But wages are high and there is universal free health care, elementary school, high school and university. And good quality. Two of the universities are high on international lists (there are only public high schools and universities here). You can't buy education here. You need good grades. You also get 1200-1400 US dollars every month while you are studying.

There's is also 1200-2200 US dollars every month if you have no job (as long as you have no job), and cheap dental care and childcare. If you have no job, dental care and childcare is also completely free.

But regardless of the many differences between states, I think it is possible to make McDonald's use truly organic eggs everywhere.

And yes, You are right, companies makes all decisions on if it will make money. The difference here is whether they did it because they don't want negative publicity in a protest, or because they know a lot of people will by more if they go organic.

So in other words they did it to avoid economic terrorism, or for a larger profit.

 

[pastryman]

If someone puts in an ad telling about the life condition of the chickens used by McDonald's or someone else, I would not call it economic terrorism.

If some company uses layers in cages, and that makes it possible for them to sell cheap and make ads about it. That will make other companies loose business/profit. Would You call that economic terrorism?

I know there is some very agressive animal rights groups in some countries. We dont have that in Denmark. Only a few people opening cages in the large mink industry we have here. And that is no good idea. The minks are killing a lot of domesticated chickens, ducks and geese. And of cause a lot of animals in nature.