- Aug 26, 2010
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Hello all! Longtime lurker, yadda yadda. And apologies in advance for the length of the post.
I cold tell a long, sad, frustrating story about why our chicken coop has so many problems. But in the interest of marital harmony, let's just say it's like this because it is and we need to stop dwelling on past choices (that were not always made by us) and move forward. Also let's posit that I don't know one single thing about construction or design and don't have anyone local to ask (I know, that sounds suspicious and maybe crazy but see above re: long, sad, etc.)
Anyway. The coop has two major problems (that we're currently aware of) -- one urgent, the other urgent-ish. One: It leaks. A lot. Mostly through the windows, and also through the nest box. We're currently working on the assumption that the roof does not have enough overhang and so water is trickling in through the (clearly not watertight) window frames. Water is also dripping directly down onto the hinges of the nest box, which has a strip of rubber over most of the joint, but there's a bit of a gap on the windward side.
So, leak-fixing questions: the windows need to be caulked, right? What would be the best product to use? Is there anything we can use while the windows still have water inside, or do we need to wait until they're completely dry? Is caulking outside sufficient, or should we do both inside and outside?
The nest box currently has concrete shingles for "roofing", which we're going to remove as it's much too heavy and in fact broke one of the hinges (which is also contributing to the leaking). We're planning on replacing them with some of the aluminum used for roofing it. Okay idea? What's the best way to protect the hinge joint from water?
The roof has zero overhang (currently we have a tarp tied over it partially covering the windows, which seems to be keeping a lot of the water out but is clearly not a long-term solution). We can fairly easily get the roof extended 3-4 inches; will that be sufficient to drain water away from the windows and nest box hinge? If not, how much overhang should we aim for? Weather comes from the side of the blank wall in the photos. As I mentioned above there's also a troubling gap in the nest box on the windward side (photo); suggestions for fixing it? Water also seeps in the front edge of the nest box lid, not sure how to fix that. Anything else we should be doing re: fixing the leaks?
Problem two: the floor is made out of some kind of particle board (I think it's called orientented strand lumber?), mostly covered with vinyl flooring that's just nailed down, with about a 1-inch gap at the back end of the coop, which is the direction the floor slopes in and where water runs to (we tried sealing the edges of the vinyl but that was a total disaster and will have to be scraped off). There are small parts of this floor that are already about half rotted through, and I assume that the whole thing will come apart and rot away sooner or later -- sooner if we can't keep water and manure off it.
[note: I just *know* you all are rolling your eyes and slapping your foreheads and wondering what kind of dope I am. Again, choices were made that we were not a part of here. Also, I am a largish kind of dope.]
So. What can we do to make the floor last longer? We live in North Idaho and have pretty much the entire list of chicken predators out here, so that's my primary concern about the floor being crappy (well, also about going in to clean it and falling through). We've been told that replacing the floor completely isn't really an option (but if you all tell me that's not true, I'm prepared to listen). The coop is raised off the ground, but only an inch or so at the lowest points. We could pretty easily dig it out a bit, though.
I will finally add that we currently have 5 chicks/chickens in our basement that really, really need a new place to live, pronto. We could move them into our garage for a while if it's imperative that major repairs be made to the coop -- any suggestions for good, cheap/free medium-term chicken containment? They will be sufficiently protected from weather/predators in the garage (although there are mice). I just need them not running around under the car.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for reading this far, and any advice you can give. Photos here; and I'm happy to take more if that would be useful.
I freely accept that we are idiots and probably should not have started chickens this year with all the issues with the coop. But we are really hoping that we can get it at least useable for this year, even if it's not ideal, and then perhaps consider more radical solutions (like a completely new coop) for next year.
I cold tell a long, sad, frustrating story about why our chicken coop has so many problems. But in the interest of marital harmony, let's just say it's like this because it is and we need to stop dwelling on past choices (that were not always made by us) and move forward. Also let's posit that I don't know one single thing about construction or design and don't have anyone local to ask (I know, that sounds suspicious and maybe crazy but see above re: long, sad, etc.)
Anyway. The coop has two major problems (that we're currently aware of) -- one urgent, the other urgent-ish. One: It leaks. A lot. Mostly through the windows, and also through the nest box. We're currently working on the assumption that the roof does not have enough overhang and so water is trickling in through the (clearly not watertight) window frames. Water is also dripping directly down onto the hinges of the nest box, which has a strip of rubber over most of the joint, but there's a bit of a gap on the windward side.
So, leak-fixing questions: the windows need to be caulked, right? What would be the best product to use? Is there anything we can use while the windows still have water inside, or do we need to wait until they're completely dry? Is caulking outside sufficient, or should we do both inside and outside?
The nest box currently has concrete shingles for "roofing", which we're going to remove as it's much too heavy and in fact broke one of the hinges (which is also contributing to the leaking). We're planning on replacing them with some of the aluminum used for roofing it. Okay idea? What's the best way to protect the hinge joint from water?
The roof has zero overhang (currently we have a tarp tied over it partially covering the windows, which seems to be keeping a lot of the water out but is clearly not a long-term solution). We can fairly easily get the roof extended 3-4 inches; will that be sufficient to drain water away from the windows and nest box hinge? If not, how much overhang should we aim for? Weather comes from the side of the blank wall in the photos. As I mentioned above there's also a troubling gap in the nest box on the windward side (photo); suggestions for fixing it? Water also seeps in the front edge of the nest box lid, not sure how to fix that. Anything else we should be doing re: fixing the leaks?
Problem two: the floor is made out of some kind of particle board (I think it's called orientented strand lumber?), mostly covered with vinyl flooring that's just nailed down, with about a 1-inch gap at the back end of the coop, which is the direction the floor slopes in and where water runs to (we tried sealing the edges of the vinyl but that was a total disaster and will have to be scraped off). There are small parts of this floor that are already about half rotted through, and I assume that the whole thing will come apart and rot away sooner or later -- sooner if we can't keep water and manure off it.
[note: I just *know* you all are rolling your eyes and slapping your foreheads and wondering what kind of dope I am. Again, choices were made that we were not a part of here. Also, I am a largish kind of dope.]
So. What can we do to make the floor last longer? We live in North Idaho and have pretty much the entire list of chicken predators out here, so that's my primary concern about the floor being crappy (well, also about going in to clean it and falling through). We've been told that replacing the floor completely isn't really an option (but if you all tell me that's not true, I'm prepared to listen). The coop is raised off the ground, but only an inch or so at the lowest points. We could pretty easily dig it out a bit, though.
I will finally add that we currently have 5 chicks/chickens in our basement that really, really need a new place to live, pronto. We could move them into our garage for a while if it's imperative that major repairs be made to the coop -- any suggestions for good, cheap/free medium-term chicken containment? They will be sufficiently protected from weather/predators in the garage (although there are mice). I just need them not running around under the car.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for reading this far, and any advice you can give. Photos here; and I'm happy to take more if that would be useful.
I freely accept that we are idiots and probably should not have started chickens this year with all the issues with the coop. But we are really hoping that we can get it at least useable for this year, even if it's not ideal, and then perhaps consider more radical solutions (like a completely new coop) for next year.