Poor pup. grrrr

[Skyesrocket]

This was posted on craigslist today

I have a 5 month old beagle puppy that just wont stop barking. If someone if around her she is fine but we recently moved her outside in a cage and is not around people.

People are suggesting to the poster to use a shock collar.

That poor pup. All it wants is to be with it's family.

I emailed her to explain about dogs being pack animals and how she is the pup's pack and that is why she is barking. I hope she stays away from a shock collar. Sheeze​

 

[Avla]

I don't see a problem with outside dogs, we have had several dogs growing up, my parents growing up, and my boyfriend as well who lived outside during the day (with water, food, and shelter of course) and they had no problem, I see dogs that live outside tend to be more sturdy then pampered pooches. My dad had a shepherd collie mix that lived 16 years and that dog lived outside it's whole life happy and healthy.

However, the whole "won't stop barking" is just another excuse to use because they don't want her anymore, if they did their research they would know beagles are hounds, and hounds tend to be vocal dogs.

 

[Stina]

there's a difference between "an outside dog" that can do things and be around people and other animals and "a dog outside in a cage." The first may (but not always!) be a very happy and well adjusted dog with a great life...........the latter will nearly always be miserable and end up with behavioral/"emotional" problems. I also would not lump all indoor dogs in one category. "Sturdiness" also doesn't necessarily mean anything for an animal's behavioral/"emotional" welfare. Training, exercise, and companionship is the key to a healthy, happy, well behaved dog. A dog locked in a cage gets no training, no exercise, and no companionship.

 

[Skyesrocket]

I don't have a problem with outside dogs properly taken care of. I have an outside dog that guards the barn at night. He was an older stray that showed up her several years ago and is VERY uncomfortable inside of the house. But, during the day he is brought up to the backyard where we interact with him a lot. And then he gets a long walk all around the outside of the barn and the pasture area before he gets moved back into the barn for the night.
What gets me about the ad...I should have posted the whole thing...anyway. The pup is 5 months old and lived inside. Then they lock it outside in a pen and can't figure out why she is barking. The poor dog can't figure out what she did to get abandoned by her family. Then, people start advising for her to put a shock collar on the poor thing?

 

[Cynthia12]

I've fostered a Beagle, use to rescue, now foster when I have the time...Beagles...bark! They can be trained, but hopefully "not" with a shock collar!

Some folks just don't realize how much time an animal takes..in training, and, it takes consistency. And to make matters a little harder with this one, Beagle don't really have a regular bark, they have a hooowll... People should always check to see what the breed has been bred for, and, what it will do..like howl for a bark, a couch potato, or, do they have the need to run..Beagles are sweethearts, can be indoors or outdoors. They can be escape artists because they also have the need to have that nose to the ground!

The one I fostered..wanted my lap!

She was a smoocher too, lots of kisses..

Cynthia

 

[Avla]

Quote:
Your personal opinion.
I also was talking about dogs outside in general, obviously if the dog is chained up, not fed, watered, etc. I would call it a case of abuse.
I never said anything about sturdiness involving behavioral/emotional welfare.
I also said "pampered pooches" not "indoor dogs" because I, myself have 2 indoor dogs, I'm also majoring in animal behavior and have study dogs since I was the age of 10 - the posters saying use a shock collar should be ashamed of themselves, using negative reinforcement will only stress/frighten the dog - dogs almost ALWAYS respond to positive reinforcement.

 

[yotetrapper]

So, are ya'll saying shock collars have no use in dog training?

 

[Crazyland]

Shock collars should never be used on a puppy. NEVER!
Shock collars are supposed to be used to proof a behavior a dog already knows. Not to teach it a behavior.
Such as in competition when you need a dog to sit fast. The dog knows to sit but chooses to do so slowly. Then a shock collar is brought in to say "hey! I said sit NOW." The dog then learns that there is a negative effect to not sitting quickly.
Shock collars don't need to be used a majority of the time IMO. Teach a dog correctly the first time and don't rush it. A common house dog doesn't need to sit faster, turn sharper, walk slower...
Also I agree that you just can' dump a puppy outside and expect it to be a well adjusted happy dog. The puppy is bored and needs attention. She is getting it the only way she knows how, to bark. Positive or negative she IS getting attention.

 

[reveriereptile]

They should have the puppy inside and give her lots of attention. With them saying "when someone is around her she is fine" seems like they aren't giving her enough attention causing her to bark to get some. She might just be lonely is why she is barking. Especially with her being that young she might of just been recently taken away from her litter. My SIL's dog has had a few litters of puppies and usually the last one left to be sold would bark when wanting attention. The more attention everyone gave it the less it barked. I definitely don't agree with a shock collar on that young of a puppy. I have heard of collars that have a spray that dogs don't like the smell of but I don't know how good those work or if they cause any problems to the nose, eyes, or mouth. Still shouldn't be used on a puppy though. If they give her more attention I think she would settle down some especially if she got wore out from being played with and slept afterwards.

 

[jojo@rolling acres farm]

The little dog is asking/begging for attention - plain and simple.