I like Orpingtons in general but heard that they get pasty butt and that to bred some of them you had to remove feathers around the same area to breed some of them. I have seen that on several sites and in wikipedia. I just wanted the opinion from people that had them. I like most everything about them but don't want to be cleaning chickens rears and defeathering hens either. I think they are very pretty birds and I have an order in for some other type of chickens and if you tell me they are great I will order some. Thanks, Dave27889