Questions about MG, CRD, cold? now I am really confused Update

[AHappychick]

I have had 3 birds on quarantine and have been practicing good biosecurity they have been outside across the property completely separate from all others. If has been over 30 days and I was just thinking maybe all was ok when today I saw that 2 out of three have yellow mucus running from their nostrils but no other symptoms at all not even sneezing . I have read all the treads and links I can find and will not treat with antibiotics but have a few questions still.

Are all forms of these "colds" ones that carry forever in the chicken? and is is so wide spread that culling these would make no difference because wild birds can bring it in as well?

Or is it my duty to cull them to try to keep a lid on it.

Should I just keep them away from all other chickens their whole lives even when they are "better" My flock has never shown any signs of this and I don't want them to.

Would it be irresponsible to sell hatching eggs from them? this is of course if they got better with no antibiotics just supplemental support.


UPDATE: Ok so I went out to check today and both are fine, could it be that food had gotten built up there when it rained and some got wet and that caused a blockage, that when I wiped it off they had a runny nose for a bit? All I gave them was yogurt and now they are perfectly fine, no snot anywhere clean as can be.

 

[speckledhen]

If it's CRD, it is passed through the egg. This is a good example of what quarantine if for and I commend you for keeping them separate this long, which was apparently long enough to show the disease. These viruses are usually herpes-type and you know what that means... they will be carriers forever and eventually, the rest of your flock will have it. Truthfully, though wild birds can carry disease, that is not usually the way a chicken flock gets it. It's mostly through bringing in sick birds or getting it at shows, etc.

Since you did quarantine them and they have shown their disease, thankfully, in my opinion, yes, they should be culled. Or else, what good was quarantine? Even with good biosecurity, the rest of the flock would eventually get it anyway, because we can't always be perfect. Good luck with your decision.

 

[AHappychick]

Are there tests I can have run before culling to see such as bringing in mucus sample to vet do you know?

I am confused to the different strains and if they are all essentially the same thing with different titles is MG CRD, or are they just similar?


Yes thankfully I did quarentine but I still will loose a great deal of money and it will hurt me a lot to cull birds which seem so healthy other than having runny noses.


I think I know the answer but i had to type it anyway

 

[AHappychick]

ok and after I cull them how do I sanitize the ground, should I just not use that whole area for a year? 2 years, more???? And I am assuming bleach/water/vinager solution to clean their coop and run, correct?

 

[Guinea Goonie]

If you can swing it I would sample the birds and have culture done.

I do not know if the state will do this for you and they may want a bird to do a necropsy.

 

[speckledhen]

Usually, the state will test, but they euthanize the bird, so unless you have a vet who can test them, I'm not sure how to go about testing them.

MG and MS are both under the heading of CRD, so it is essentially the same thing. I'm not saying I know for sure what those birds have, though. Does the discharge smell really bad? If so, Coryza is also a possibility. Wish I could be more definitive for you. I just hate to be the voice of doom and gloom all the time.

I wouldn't think you had to leave the coop empty for years, just a short period after disinfecting. Bleach or Oxine would be my choices.

 

[AHappychick]

I did not smell it but I dont remeber any bad smell and I wiped it off with my fingers thinking at first it was food stuck, so I think I would have noticed.

After reading lots of threads on it it seems as though so many people have chooks with it, now I wonder about my eggs and if it is bound to pop up elsewhere???

I guess I would see it in the chicks though right during their 6 weeks in a brooder before hand... I have read posts of crd chicks before...

 

[AHappychick]

Ok they are all fine now I am very confused update at top of page