hey there I'm finally getting some red goldens a pair male is said to just starting his colors han has layed 12 eggs so far but owner broke all but 2 and is ready to get read of them I do n ot have a very good pen for them right now and was going to put them in a 8' x 24'' x 30'' pen with 3' newsting box on end .. untill i can get better one built.. I'm trading a couple of my male quial from breeding stock and a used foam incubatyor than need a thermostat for them.. I'm need all the information i can get on these birds if anyone can help.. been wanting some for awhile and hope I'm making a good deal.. any help would be greatly appreciated thanks ''matt''