Rhode Island roo x Rhode Island hen? Outcome?

[Kearaaaa23]

Hello everyone, would the chicks of a Rhode Island roo over a Rhode Island hen be red sex links? what would be the outcome of a thode island roo over an ISA brown hen? Please help as I am managing my flock breeds and trying to get autosexing or sex linked breeds.

 

[SilverBirds]

Breeding RIR will give your more RIR. If you mean RIR over a RIW you could get sex links that way. Breeding the RIR with the RSL will give chicks that will look like RIR. They will not be sex linked.

 

[Kearaaaa23]

Breeding RIR will give your more RIR. If you mean RIR over a RIW you could get sex links that way. Breeding the RIR with the RSL will give chicks that will look like RIR. They will not be sex linked.

How exactly are Rhode Island whites bred? My friend is selling Rhode Island chicks but never specified if both parents are rir or one rir and riw and the chicks turned out like this. What do you think?

 

[SilverBirds]

How exactly are Rhode Island whites bred? My friend is selling Rhode Island chicks but never specified if both parents are rir or one rir and riw and the chicks turned out like this. What do you think?

The RIW was developed back in the early 1900s. Despite the similar name, RIW does not actually have any RIR in them. They were created by mixing other breeds together, I believe Wyandottes and Leghorns were in the mix, then selectively bred to fit the envisioned standard. They have since become a recognized breed and are only bred with other RIW instead of recreating the original mix.

Neither of those chicks look like pure RIR or RIW or a cross between the two. Pure RIR they would be redder in color and would not have a stripe. RIW are yellow. If they were RIR x RIW the females should be red and males should be white. Both of these chicks are yellow with one having a dark chipmunk stripe. I'm not sure if this is a different type of sex link or just the result of whatever they are crossed with.

 

[NatJ]

How exactly are Rhode Island whites bred? My friend is selling Rhode Island chicks but never specified if both parents are rir or one rir and riw and the chicks turned out like this. What do you think?

Can you get pictures of your friend's breeding stock?
That might provide the answers.

Both of these chicks are yellow with one having a dark chipmunk stripe.

I think the lighter one is what happens when you add Dominant White (turns black into white) to the darker one. In a week or two, when they grow some feathers, that detail should become clear: wing feathers will be either black or white.

 

[Kearaaaa23]

Can you get pictures of your friend's breeding stock?
That might provide the answers.


I think the lighter one is what happens when you add Dominant White (turns black into white) to the darker one. In a week or two, when they grow some feathers, that detail should become clear: wing feathers will be either black or white.

Here are the pics of my friends breeding stock. What do y’all think? Also does the chipmunk stripes on the chicks mean it’s a girl and the ones without are boys? What breeds do you reckon the parents could be since they’re clearly not RIR based on the pic?

 

[NatJ]

Also does the chipmunk stripes on the chicks mean it’s a girl and the ones without are boys?

No, I do not think you can tell anything about which chicks are male vs. female by looking at their coloring and pattern.

Here are the pics of my friends breeding stock. What do y’all think?... What breeds do you reckon the parents could be since they’re clearly not RIR based on the pic?

I agree that those are definitely not Rhode Island Reds.

I think they are probably mixes of some sort. They might have some Rhode Island Red in them, but I think I see rose combs (rare in Rhode Island Reds) or maybe walnut combs (not found in Rhode Island Reds.) and I definitely see crests on their heads (not right for Rhode Island Reds.) I think I see white feet as well (also not present in Rhode Island Reds.)

I can come up with quite a few multi-breed mixes that would give that set of traits within two or three generations. For example, if someone crossed a Silkie with a Rhode Island Red, and then bred the mixes back to Rhode Island Red, they might get some chickens that look like the ones in the picture. A mix of Speckled Sussex and Polish and Wyandotte could do it too. Or Buckeye and Cream Legbar and Hamburg. And so on, for quite a few other possible sets of parent breeds.

They may also be descended from chickens that never belongs to any pure breeds at all, that have always had traits different than any recognized breed.

If they belong to any specific breed, it is one I am not familiar with.
What country do they live in? I am mostly familiar with chicken breeds in the USA, but if the chickens are in another country they might belong to a breed that does exist and I just haven't heard of it.

 

[BDutch]

More info about autosexing:
https://poultrykeeper.com/poultry-breeding/autosexing-poultry/