Ruined, beyond hope cockerel? *Graphic Photos*

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Mimi13

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This past April I purchased two, day old cockerels along with 20 pullets. I wanted this Welsummer and SLW to run my flock, new and existing. After some early maturity aggression I saw toward the pullets, I decided to put them both in their own run to let them mature until Spring, when they’ll turn 1. However, unfortunately they both wanted to be the dom bird which caused a pretty good “beat down” of the one I consider my favorite, the Welsummer. Of course I intervened and removed him from the cockerel run and put him back with the flock. BTW, he wasn’t the one showing mating aggression to begin with and is absolutely wonderful with all the pullets and a couple of my original hens who let him near them. Two of the originals send him packing if he evens thinks about mating them. It is quite humorous to watch, I might add.
Skip ahead about 5 weeks. This seemingly docile cockerel began showing signs of interest in me, which made me start questioning him. He and I had one minor run in, well okay, he flogged me from behind (something I said I’d never tolerate), but he has since kept his distance under my very alert eyes. Over the past week it has escalated, however. He has flogged my grown son and just yesterday morning while I was away he outright attacked my DH. Of course, it turned into the battle of two males and I must report both are still alive. A bit bruised and scratched, but still alive. :oops:

As this has always been my biggest concern, after these past few weeks’ increased aggression and this last altercation with my DH, which resulted in a broken rake, my question is whether or not my cockerel is ruined? At just 23 weeks old, if I put him in his own coop and run for the remainder of his first year, could he possibly turn out to be one of those “perfect” roos that I’ve only read about? Or will his most recent run in with the law (of the property) completely ruined my roo? This is one of those situations that comes with actual experience that I’m just now building. If I were to ask myself this same question in two years, I’d be able to tell myself what would be best. However, like most everyone, I want the probable answer now.

I do know everything regarding my newest situation is completely subjective, but as always on BYC I have received the best guidance and advice any new chicken keeper could ask for. I anxiously await your wisdom!

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This is just my opinion of course, but I think there are too many good roosters out there to keep a mean one. I have had quite a few good ones, but I don't handle the roosters much. When they get very used to people, then they tend to get aggressive later on. Roosters that are a bit wary of people are more likely to think twice about attacking. Just my two cents. Sorry he is attacking! Hugs.
 
I wasn't asked, but I will chime in anyway. First of all, disposition and temperament are hereditary. Secondly, an aggressive rooster is just not worth keeping around. You will never be able to trust him and just one trip to the ER will pay for a LOT of chicken feed. In this case, your crockpot is your friend. A long hot soak with onions, a few peppercorns, a bayleaf or two garlic and whatever else strikes your fancy does wonders for the disposition of even the meanest rooster.
 
I would have done away with him as soon as he flogged you; no tolerance for human-aggression here.

Regarding mating aggression and 'chicken puberty'. Cockerels should only be interested in your mature hens; those are the ones who are capable of producing offspring, and sex is for making babies. It's unusual that the SLW chose to try it on with the pullets, though it could be due to their similar ages.

I would put the SLW back in once the pullets are laying and see how he does; if his behaviour improves, he may be able to help you instruct your next cockerel. If not, try again next year with a few new boys, keeping only the two best. Watch for 'flirting'; a good cockerel will make a special chuckling noise to the girls. I culled one cockerel for mating aggression last week (the biggest, prettiest one of the year, of course), but kept another. The only difference in their behaviour was flirting; as their hormones get into line they can get carried away, but if they at least try to flirt, they ought to come right in the end.

Remember also that a cockerel needs to be trained; do not allow him to ever show dominance behaviour in your presence; no crowing, no mating, and no advancing on you (unless you have food, in which case you're fair game). If they behave like this, walk at them; if they don't back down, a gentle kick wouldn't hurt. You have to be the boss.

Best of luck.
 
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All of the responses so far are exactly what I expected and, unfortunately, are all true. I just don’t want to face the ultimate outcome, that he must go! Why, why, why did it have to be him? Ugh!

I am going to swap out cockerels and let the SLW out with the girls. I’ll just cross my fingers that he’s not overzealous with them like he was before. BTW, this SLW cockerel, to date, has NEVER made any out of the way move toward me or any member of my family. On the contrary. He acts terrified of people. He has only been rough with the hens and pullets and then with the Welsummer when they were penned together. The last time he was with the flock, the pullets were about three to four weeks prior to POL. He is also my Sleeper Cell Cockerel, that I had posted about several weeks ago. He isn’t the one I wanted mating with four of my birds once they got a little older, thus the whole reason for the Welsummer. I wanted to breed and hatch my own Olive Eggers. But I also don’t want to breed the Welsummer now that he has shown aggression.

Out of a total of five male birds that I was “lucky” enough to have gotten, two have already been slaughtered and processed. I actually just finished the second one a bit earlier today. I have my third one waiting, a NHR, and it looks like I’ll be adding #4 to the short list...my Welsummer.

I have read numerous times that there are too many good roos to put up with a bad one so I suppose it’s all up to my SLW. Unless he really steps it up with the girls, I will be 5 for 5 on bad boys. My first priority is for a roo that will not threaten my family, but I don’t want one that hurts my girls either. It may not be meant for me to have a rooster. Oh well, we shall see. I may be buying some Olive Eggers instead of hatching them. :hit

Thank you all.
 
I feel your pain. I put down a roo after a year and half of fighting. I know.... my fault for trying to change him. And one of his boys just got slaughtered after he started the same bs as his dad. The other two boys are good and almost 7 mths old so there may be hope for them. My barred rock Mr Spot, my cochin Hammertime and my other roo Ringo (cannot remember his breed) all respect my space and treat their girls good.
 
Ok we had one looked just like him and he always use to chase me and flogged me once, My mother loved him cuz he was pretty and he protected the flock very well he also nevery went after her. So I decided next time he came at me to show hIim who was boss of the yard. I took to caring a stick around the yard the next time he came at me he got smaked but good, knocked him off his feet. Figured if it killed him in the pot he would go if not then he understood who was boss. We NEVER had another problem with him, he was the perfect rooster took care of the hens tolerated another rooster my mom got and gave humans a wide burth. Good luck, it might seam harsh but it worked.
 

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